The Turnbull & Asser Grand Tie Project

The Bond VivantThe Bond Vivant SeendPosts: 1,126MI6 Agent
Hello everyone.

Some of you may have picked up on a point that was raised during my Vlog about having a bespoke shirt made by Turnbull & Asser for The Bond Experience. The subject of reissues and recreations of rare Bond ties was raised by Liam De Vanney. The project is moving forward, and we are looking for examples of many of the ties from predominantly the Brosnan era., but 2 from Craig’s era. At present, my colleague has been sifting through the T&A archive of swatches and samples, but sourcing the correct fabrics for each design after 25 years is not simple. Basically the archives begin to be dated from about 1992, but when you start going through them, you find similar designs to what you are looking for, but not exact matches. It appears that Lindy Hemming has seen a pattern that she liked, and then asked for it to be made in a slightly different pattern and colour. Hence, no swatch would then be kept of the custom design, leading to a gap in the archive. Out of the current Bond ties that T&A sell, there is no original swatch for either the Thames tie or the Die Another Day Circles tie. I suspect these too were custom made in those colours with Turnbull having to re-fabricate them years later by copying the tie fabric from a tie on the wall.

Hence, for most of the ties going forward, I very much see the best course of action being to replicate the fabrics from the original ties if we are fortunate enough to find a kind collector willing to lend a few to us for a short period, for the craftsmen to examine and then replicate precisely the original patterns and colours used.

By way of incentive, the collector would then receive a free example of the new production run to either keep or to sell on. There would only be, initially, 15 examples of the production run, and then after a year or so the ties would be introduced in Turnbull & Asser stores worldwide, at a rate of roughly 3 styles per year.

Finally, there is also the potential for a ‘Making Of’ book, which was mentioned in the last meeting at T&A. Hence, people who chose to assist with the project would be mentioned in the book. This is something that money can’t buy, because you’re effectively creating your own little piece of Bond legacy.

Below you will see a graphic highlighting the ties that we are looking for, and a list detailing the maker we attribute them to. We are also looking into 3 further Bond ties that were used for promotion between films, for Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough. Pictures of these are also attached below.

If anyone owns any of these ties and would be willing to lend them to T&A for a brief period of time, or knows the whereabouts of any of them, we would forever be in your debt.


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And here are the Promotional ties that we are looking to track down:



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We are aiming for nothing less than perfection with every example, which is a high bar to reach. However, by reaching out to the Bond community, we are hoping that we can create something magical for every 007 fan.

Many thanks for your interest, and please PM me if you can help us out in this major endeavour.

Blair
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  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 766MI6 Agent
    Sadly I can’t add any information, but where was that second photograph taken? It‘s awesome!
    The name is Walker by the way.

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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,392MI6 Agent
    Was just talking about hopes of T&A reissuing more Bond ties not too long ago, Would love the TWINE Bilbao tie!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 9,851MI6 Agent
    Hi Blair

    As mentioned in emails I had the copper Hamburg tie and sold it here but the PMs are long gone so forgot who to :#

    Also I won the DAD British Airways flight tie on eBay but the seller sent my tie to another buyer and I got his tie instead

    David Schofield who I believe sadly passed away told me many years ago he had many of the Brosnan ties stored away (I think he said in Spain)

    Anyhow hopefully many AJBers come forward to help. There was of course the dude who recently advertised stuff in advance of his eBay auction however I hear he has dissapeared
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  • urhashurhash USPosts: 926MI6 Agent
    This is really exciting!

    The "MAYBE" on that Herbie Frogg tie from TWINE needs to be converted to a YES.
  • urhashurhash USPosts: 926MI6 Agent
    Blair,
    If original samples aren't able to be acquired, is T&A willing to do their best attempt through high-res photos, or is it an all-or-nothing deal for each tie in question?
  • casino_royalecasino_royale Posts: 200MI6 Agent
    edited April 2019
    Some time ago I emailed Turnbull & Asser to ask them if they made the Tomorrow Never Dies Hamburg Airport tie. It is a kind of gold/yellow tie with a pattern, Bond wears it while meeting Q. Turnbull & Asser wrote me back that they indeed made this tie for TND but they made it especially for the Bond movie, this tie was not made for sale.

    Well, one of these were sold through this form, so I think they were for sale after all;

    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/41557/for-sale-turnbullasser-hamburg-tie-arrivalcopper-version-sold/

    On one of the photos in the link, there is a code on the lable of the tie.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 9,851MI6 Agent
    Some time ago I emailed Turnbull & Asser to ask them if they made the Tomorrow Never Dies Hamburg Airport tie. It is a kind of gold/yellow tie with a pattern, Bond wears it while meeting Q. Turnbull & Asser wrote me back that they indeed made this tie for TND but they made it especially for the Bond movie, this tie was not made for sale.

    Well, one of these were sold through this form, so I think they were for sale after all;

    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/41557/for-sale-turnbullasser-hamburg-tie-arrivalcopper-version-sold/

    On one of the photos in the link, there is a code on the lable of the tie.

    Yup I had that tie also, possibly that was mine
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,045MI6 Agent
    I have an original Rubyeon tie and some other original T&A ties - will check the above properly this evening as it’s difgicult to tell from my iPhone.
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 6,713MI6 Agent
    I sold the majority of those ties, some duplicates to a collector on here some time back, I can’t remember who, but I’ll endeavour to find out. I also have all of the TNDs ties which are well worn somewhere. I nearly threw them out a few years back when moving, but kept them out of sentimentality. I’ll do my very best to find them out, but it may be a slow process. There are some screen used ties with collectors on here, I cant remember who had them, maybe Donk and Higgins. It was soooo long ago.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,522MI6 Agent
    Are T&A planning on replicating these ties in the screen-accurate width, or will they be making them narrower to follow current fashions?
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  • urhashurhash USPosts: 926MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Are T&A planning on replicating these ties in the screen-accurate width, or will they be making them narrower to follow current fashions?

    Good question. Are all the Brosnan-era ones 9.5cm?
  • urhashurhash USPosts: 926MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    David Schofield who I believe sadly passed away told me many years ago he had many of the Brosnan ties stored away (I think he said in Spain)

    In a (very) old thread, David mentioned he had the following:

    "Sulka tie from GE (confrontation with Trevelyan in Moscow scenes, etc)
    T & A tie from TND (meeting with M at MOD, etc)
    T & A tie from TND (break in to Carver factory, etc)
    T & A tie from TWINE pts
    T & A tie from DAD (meeting with Chang at hotel reception)
    T & A tie from DAD (Blades scene, meeting with M, etc)

    I guess that at least confirms all the above ties were sold off the rack, unless some of them are screen used? Sad to hear he passed away, that is news to me.
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,045MI6 Agent
    Blair - do you need this one too? In which case I can help with this too,
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  • BondClothingBondClothing Posts: 338MI6 Agent
    I sold a variant of the GE tank tie to 006.

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  • The Bond VivantThe Bond Vivant SeendPosts: 1,126MI6 Agent
    Thanks folks for the wonderful response and support. To answer a few questions:

    To answer your question about the Brosnan picture, it doesn't surprise me that there has been such excitement about it. As soon as my colleague saw the picture too, he instantly asked for permission to take a photo, and he will be going back soon to take more detailed photos without the glare from the glass. The photo is actually hanging on the wall at the T&A archives. It's the only place he has ever seen this image of Brosnan, estimated to have been taken around 1996 (just before shooting Tomorrow Never Dies). When he made enquiries with Monty, the head tie cutter at T&A, he said he seemed to remember cutting the tie for the photos, but unfortunately they no longer sell the material.

    Regarding the promo ties, the first red and navy blue one is from promotional pictures taken with Sean Bean for Goldeneye.
    The second orange promotional tie was taken shortly before shooting Tomorrow Never Dies.
    The third tie with blue and grey squares was taken to promote The World Is Not Enough.

    The blade size at the moment has to remain the standard 9.5 cm because the ties are cut in bulk with many other T&A designs. Other blade sizes were discussed at the last meeting, but that's a long way down the road for now.

    Regarding replication from high resolution photos:
    The reason we have so far resisted replication from photos is because of lighting and scale. Often people visit the T&A website, see a tie they like, yet when they visit the T&A shop, the tie is an awful lot darker than they thought it would be. This is because lighting can severely change the appearance of the colour shade. Hence, our major preference is to replicate the colour shades in the presence of the original ties. I don't think 007 fans would forgive us if we replicated a tie and the colour was just plainly incorrect.

    For all of those members who might have ties in their collections, let me know as and when you've managed to track them down, and we can get the proverbial ball rolling.

    Once again, the level of support shown by Bond fans and members is truly wonderful, but knowing many of you, not in the least surprising.

    Gentlemen, I salute you.

    Blair

    Scale is the other issue. We want to get every design as close to the original as physically possible. This means replicating each pattern to the nearest 0.5mm if necessary. However, the result should be amazing and truly pay homage to the original ties.
  • urhashurhash USPosts: 926MI6 Agent
    To answer your question about the Brosnan picture, it doesn't surprise me that there has been such excitement about it. As soon as my colleague saw the picture too, he instantly asked for permission to take a photo, and he will be going back soon to take more detailed photos without the glare from the glass. The photo is actually hanging on the wall at the T&A archives. It's the only place he has ever seen this image of Brosnan, estimated to have been taken around 1996 (just before shooting Tomorrow Never Dies).

    There is a very clear (and large) picture of this in the book Dressed to Kill. Happy to take a picture of it if needed. The book was published in 1996, so the picture in question can't be newer than that. I haven't opened the book in awhile, but I seem to recall it being linked to Goldeneye as a studio portrait. I'll take a look tonight.
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 766MI6 Agent
    urhash wrote:
    To answer your question about the Brosnan picture, it doesn't surprise me that there has been such excitement about it. As soon as my colleague saw the picture too, he instantly asked for permission to take a photo, and he will be going back soon to take more detailed photos without the glare from the glass. The photo is actually hanging on the wall at the T&A archives. It's the only place he has ever seen this image of Brosnan, estimated to have been taken around 1996 (just before shooting Tomorrow Never Dies).

    There is a very clear (and large) picture of this in the book Dressed to Kill. Happy to take a picture of it if needed. The book was published in 1996, so the picture in question can't be newer than that. I haven't opened the book in awhile, but I seem to recall it being linked to Goldeneye as a studio portrait. I'll take a look tonight.

    A clear picture would be lovely. -{
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  • casino_royalecasino_royale Posts: 200MI6 Agent
    Blair, I mentioned the TND Hamburg airport tie in an earlier message yesterday. Is there hopefully a change that this T&A tie can also be reproduced? It is one of my favorites. On one of the photos in the link below, there is a code on the lable of the tie.

    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/41557/for-sale-turnbullasser-hamburg-tie-arrivalcopper-version-sold/

    Thanks.
  • The Bond VivantThe Bond Vivant SeendPosts: 1,126MI6 Agent
    Yes- that's on the list- The Hamburg Arrival tie is my favourite from the wish list, and we have (hopefully) tracked one down already!
  • casino_royalecasino_royale Posts: 200MI6 Agent
    That is very good news Blair. Thanks for the info.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,522MI6 Agent
    urhash wrote:
    To answer your question about the Brosnan picture, it doesn't surprise me that there has been such excitement about it. As soon as my colleague saw the picture too, he instantly asked for permission to take a photo, and he will be going back soon to take more detailed photos without the glare from the glass. The photo is actually hanging on the wall at the T&A archives. It's the only place he has ever seen this image of Brosnan, estimated to have been taken around 1996 (just before shooting Tomorrow Never Dies).

    There is a very clear (and large) picture of this in the book Dressed to Kill. Happy to take a picture of it if needed. The book was published in 1996, so the picture in question can't be newer than that. I haven't opened the book in awhile, but I seem to recall it being linked to Goldeneye as a studio portrait. I'll take a look tonight.

    Yes, this is from GoldenEye and taken in 1995. Brosnan is wearing a Sulka shirt in that photo, not T&A.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,522MI6 Agent
    Shirt or Tie, Matt?

    Shirt is definitely Sulka, and tie could be as well. Ties were sourced from a number of brands for GoldenEye, but many were Sulka.
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  • BondClothingBondClothing Posts: 338MI6 Agent
    Have we ever seen pictures of the two blue ties from Goldeneye in the wild?
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,045MI6 Agent
    I love the blue and orange squares tie from the first meeting with M - would love one of those.
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  • The Bond VivantThe Bond Vivant SeendPosts: 1,126MI6 Agent
    One of the presumed Sulka ties from Goldeneye turned up at Bonhams auction, and was actually made by Simpsons

    https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/15337/lot/175/


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  • urhashurhash USPosts: 926MI6 Agent
    https://i.ibb.co/ygp1XSH/brosnan.png

    Here you go gents.

    On the prior page, the caption reads: "Pierce Brosnan, on one of the Goldeneye sets, photographed by John Stoddart, in a style reminiscent of the studio portraits of the Forties and Fifties stars"
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 766MI6 Agent
    Thanks, very nice pic. -{
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,586MI6 Agent
    Some favorites include the Rubyeon and the blue one he wears with the serge suit on Die Another Day.
    Another vote for C&D's pick.

    Would really like any of them, really. Brosnan always had the most memorable ties, IMO.

    Why do I seem to recall a member's collection including all of those :s
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