Watch Porn Wednesday

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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Sorry, that is entirely not the case!


    Some years ago, Bremont where caught hands in the honeypot for declaring „inhouse“ movements that where certainly not!

    To make things even worse, they came with a more than half-arsed „explanation“ (which was not even an apology) explaining: „ we have been so passionate about us and our product, we didn‘t know the scope of what ‚inhouse‘ really means“.

    That‘s the point where the opinion about them changed and it has zero to do with their nationality.

    This is the (as usual) very mild and polite sumup in Hodinkee - many have a much stronger opinion about them!

    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/video-bremont-co-founder-nick-english-responds-to-questions-about-new-movement

    I don‘t like them because of their ethics (shown above), their usually inflated pricing and their use of super-tiny movements in oversized pilots watches.

    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Having said this, Asp9mm may know better - the English brothers obviously come from a well-off family, so Archie‘s „ set up by a couple of English guys living off trust funds“ is not just a ridiculous statement - particularly in context with their shady business ethics.

    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    It seems Tag Heuer managed to avoid long lasting damage when they claimed the seiko movement they used to be their own In house work! The instances are very similar, and pretty much both are down to marketing spiel !

    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Classic Whataboutism!

    Tag Heuer‘s wrongdoings don‘t make Bremont’s cheating any better


    Pulling the „because we are British“ card when a company receives well-deserved loathing for their shady actions seems to be a common reflex.

    Bremont totally screwed this up - twice - and they deserve the negativity that is out there.

    For what they did and not for what country they are coming from!

    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent

    They’ve done nothing shady except make a dumb comment 13 years ago. Get over it. Cartier, Brietling and even Rolex have said all their movements are in house over the years when they in fact weren’t.

    And they never tried to get around it by saying they are British. That’s just your dumb take on a nonexistent instant.

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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Well, Chris came out with that indirect implication, mentioning that there would be no negativity if they where coming from Switzerland....

    And they have deceivingly and intentionally called their movement „inhouse“ while knowingly buying them from La Joux-Perret.

    That‘s not „one dumb comment“ like you say.

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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent

    And it‘s called Breitling, dumb yourself 🤨

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent

    I'm simply stating that I personally don't understand the amount of abuse that Bremont get from so many sources, when they've done nothing any worse than other luxury watch brands and those other brands like Tag haven't received the same ire ! I have my favoured watch makers and Bremont isn't one of them, but I certainly find the abuse strange, especially as the company have such good charitable work with the British armed forces charities 🤷 Archie's sniping has a lot to do with the brothers position in life! At the end of the day if the watches work as they should and people like the aesthetics then that's the point as long as they don't attempt to mislead anyone! They did once and that was corrected.

    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Well, they mislead everyone - by calling that movement being inhouse - that‘s the point.

    And that‘s the reason for the negativity that they receive - also from me.

    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021


    Nothing breeds hate faster than success And two young men have built up a very successful high end watch brand from nothing And their brand is getting stronger. The watch industry is very “olde” If you haven’t been around since the 1800s in some people eyes, then you don’t deserve to be selling products within the industry. Even Rolex were looked down upon as young upstarts until recently They told people were to shove it too

    Higgy Bumm. No one cares. Only you. And you’re a legal moron. So nobody cares what you think either.

    And it should be Breitling. I before E except after C. Everyone knows that.

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  • lotusguy2001lotusguy2001 Posts: 132MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    So Bremont is beneath the guy and a small mistake offends, but he owns a A Langhe and BMW IWC and Seiko products,according to previous posts. Amazing.... Think those companies mistakes were slightly larger, you know in history....



    But..... that’s in the past... oh wait so is the Bremont situation. But I do like that’s Tudor chrono, looks pretty sweet. No worries just pointing out the strange imo reasons why one thing is bad but can let another slide.

  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Quote Asp9mm:

    >>Nothing breeds hate faster than success<<


    ..that from the guy who told me minutes before how much he hates rappers 😂😂

    C‘mon it‘s not that easy and you well know it!


    I'd bet good money that if the Bremont owners came from France or Italy with the same background and wrongdoings - many of you guys here would be less forgiving 😉 - and rightly so!

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent

    I didn’t say I hate rappers. I hate the music. Awful commercial crap spewed out. You don’t even have to be able to sing or play an instrument to be successful. And the lyrics are more violent and hate filled than any other music genre.

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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    So, you say that much of the hate for rappers is not because people hate their success but what they do and how they do.

    But when people hate Bremont, it‘s their success that they hate and not what they do and how they do?


    Interesting logic 🧐🧐

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent

    It wouldnt bother me if the owners were from Timbuktu! The products should speak for themselves! But being British it's hard to ignore the xenophobia that's so thick you could cut it with a knife! As I said earlier Tag made a very similar mistake and they haven't had a fraction of the abuse Bremont has received. As I understand it Bremont had worked with lpj to develop the movement, which although not in-house is a widely used practice. At the end of the day if you like the watch then what does it matter if the movement is lpj derived or ETA as so many watch brands have powering them.

    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Anyway I'll leave the Bremont story there, onto another Panerai W&W piece and one for the sailors amongst us. Pam013103 really liking the nylon straps and that they've moved the chrono controls to the left of the case which gives a cleaner look to me.


    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent

    That is nice! I went off the look of Panerais for a while but I think I'm warming to them again.

  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent

    Its only the last 3 years or so that I've become a big fan of Panerai tbh, I'd just overlooked them. But now I wear mine over any of my Omegas. Traditionally you needed big wrists or you wanted to make a statement but with them embracing 42mm case size across the ranges that's not necessarily the case (though 42mm is still a sizeable watch also with the crown guard bridge) even the paneristi favourite submersible bronzo has become available in 42mm as with this one below, again at watches and wonders and I do like the blue, and I think as the bronze ages the patina with the blue will look lovely.


    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,644MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Time for some true Watch Porn!


    Seiko‘s Micro Artist Studio (MAS) only makes some dozens of watches per year!



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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent

    I don’t like their business practices. They’re up to something. Apart from making boring looking watches.

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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Yes, that’s what we say about Brewmont watches 😘

    Pretty sure you appreciate the craftmenship on the shown MAS GS?

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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021

    Oh, a medium grade machine decorated outsourced movement as a kind of reply to probably the most perfectly hand-finished totally inhouse movement with mindblowingly executed bevels shows that you are a true connaisseur 😂😂

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2021



    Another designflaw on the Tudor Chronograph is their massive signature Snowflake hourhand, which very often covers the Subdials of the Chronograph to a significant degree.

    Most of the Chrono makers go with slimmer main hands to avoid this.

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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent

    Not interested in an argument, thanks.

  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent

    Yeah I'm not sure why the luminor due is only rated at 30 meters when the luminor marine at 40mm case size is 100 meters 🤷 different movements I know but still !

    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent

    not sure what was in the Omega people‘s heads, but what is that?


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