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The article quote's ATJ but doesn't say where the quote was given, maybe it was to The Guardian?
“I don’t feel like I need to have a future drawn out for me. I feel like: whatever’s drawn out for me, I can fuckin’ do better.”
That does not sound like someone who is doing Bond. It sounds more like someone who didn't get the gig. A bit of bitterness there.
The bit of the article with ATJ says:
More recently, Aaron’s career has really taken off. This year alone he stars in Kraven the Hunter, a superhero blockbuster; Nosferatu, with Bill Skarsgård and Nicholas Hoult; and at the time of writing he was tipped as the next James Bond (a rumour he seemed to scotch, saying, “I don’t feel like I need to have a future drawn out for me. I feel like: whatever’s drawn out for me, I can fuckin’ do better”).
I do think that an actor who already has a decent Hollywood career would be crazy to take the Bond gig. Not least because it can be plausibly argued, the films just aren't very good. And you are stuck with the damn thing, you're under contract, and it's surely the bulk of the year taken up with filming and then promoting.
Absolute heaven for an actor in last chance saloon who has yet to make it big in movies - just about all of them, frankly. Moore was 46 in his debut and had yet to make it in movies either as a star or an actor, Brosnan was in the same position, and so on.
It's impossible to be better than the original, but I really like the director of the remake (Robert Eggers) and I'm confident that he can deliver something of quality. THE VVITCH and THE NORTHMAN were both excellent. I still need to see THE LIGHTHOUSE but I'm told that it's quite good.
THE LIGHTHOUSE is...interesting. Eggers is indisputably a visionary and, @chrisno1, he's probably the farthest thing from a comic-book guy making movies today. I'm eager to see what he does with NOSFERATU.
The Werner Herzog remake with Klaus Kinski (talk about Bond villain / henchman material) was pretty good. My personal favorite take on Nosferatu was "Shadow of the Vampire". A very black comedic take on the filming of Nosferatu where the actor they get to play the Vampire turns out to really be a vampire. My guess is this new version, given Eggers is directing, will most likely be in black and white and shot in the old fashioned 1.33 to 1 aspect ratio (which has made a bit of a comeback these days). With regards to ATJ being offered Bond, it's all just an unsubstantiated report from a not particularly reliable source.
Pictures have already been released from it. It looks like Eggers is shooting in 'black and white' and then 'dying' the frame into other colors ala what they did in the 30s. I'm sure it's all digital vs using actual dye but the effect is the same.
@HowardB Good to see the love for SHADOW OF THE VAMPIRE one of my fav 'horror' movies of recent eras. Is it a drama, a satire, a chiller... endless questions and a great lead preformance from Willem Dafoe as Max Shreck.
Love that film. Dafoe's performance is about as good as it gets. Great supporting cast also. I highly recommend Shadow of the Vampire. Basically a perfect film. Have not seen the film since it was in theaters over 20 years ago. Unfortunately it has never been released on Blu here in the States. Maybe whoever has the rights will be motivated to put it out when Egger's Nosferatu is released to capitalize on that. One can only hope.
ATJ is 5'11" Hoult is 6'3" O'Connell is 5'7" so, given their position and distance to the lens, it looks about right. Who's the other guy out, out of interest?
O'Connell is a fine actor. He was great in '71 and Unbroken. Height notwithstanding, I don't see him as Bond. I think Jamie Dornan would be a much better fit for Bond but he's probably too old at 41 (though he looks like early to mid 30's). Regarding Bond and height, since Craig, I think the new Bond standard is pretty much average height or above.
Hadn't really though of Jamie Dornan until I saw Heart of Stone. Not a great movie but he looks the part in it and handles the action scenes and fights really well. The outfit he wears in the first scene is pure Bond.
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Probably right. But I think the Craig-established (generously-estimated) 5'11" should be the minimum, along with a degree of obvious physical conditioning. My biggest reservation about Craig - probably my only one - was his height, and he 'played' bigger than he was.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I don't know if this means AJT IS Bond and he is getting roles like this because the industry knows he's the next 007, or if he is making this 28 Days/Weeks sequel, called 28 Years Later, because he won't be 007.
There's more bad news for ATJ's future, his film Kraven the Hunter has been delayed again, I think this is the fourth time.
It's now being released in December, two months later than has been planned for a while. Is the movie that bad? Has anyone ever known a good movie to be repeatedly delayed? Don't say NTTD, that was the pandemic.
Kraven will be another dud, as bad as Madame Web and most recent solo Sony Spider-Man live action efforts. But I wouldn’t expect Eon to hold that against ATJ. At most, they’d make him a lesser offer.
The real question is whether he’s really under consideration. I think I’d like him if they went for it.
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Mad Max: Fury Road wasn't great, it was a massive disappointment. Another example of bait and switch, Mad Max gets relegated to a supporting character.
I question how many of those movies were 'delayed'. I'm old enough to remember all of those except The Big Sleep and I don't remember any of them being delayed, not four times certainly.
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you there too. FURY ROAD was arguably the best of the Mad Mad films. I think I still prefer MAD MAX 2/THE ROAD WARRIOR for the simple fact that it had a metal crunchiness to it that the FURY ROAD lacked. Also, MM2 had some of the most insane stuntwork that I've ever seen.
As to the others being delayed, a simply query on the films in IMDB or in Wikipedia will verify the delays that they experienced.
yep me too fan of Fury Road. I'm not usually into action for actions sake but that was mighty impressive. in one story I read, fellow director Roberto Rodrigez stood up after the premier and asked Miller "how the hell did you film that?" because I dont believe there was much CGI but plenty very dangerous looking stunts
and the scifi concepts were good too, with the control of the water supply and the patriarch characters wives. what a detailed and well thought out postapocalytpic society. like a war over the last remaining gas station was prophetic enough, but we're pretty much there now in real life and Miller has shown us other disturbing ways in which our society can quite predictably break down further.
and then theres Charlize Theron suddenly displaying the most incredible action chops
Apocalypse Now was a legendarily delayed and overbudget movie. Coulda been called Apocalypse Exactly When Mr Coppola? I just read an article referencing all that today, because Coppola has another huge problem plagued movie about to open. his wife did a documentary about all the problems filming Apocalypse Now, and the documentary is almost as entertaining as the film itself
add Brazil to the list of delayed films well worth the wait and now considered a classic. I think all of Gilliams films had problems with schedule and budget, the others its more subjective whether it was worth it or not, but whenever I'm watching it I am absolutely certain Brazil is the finest motion picture ever made. I recall shouting that out loud in the movie theatre the first time I saw it.
If KRAVEN ends up being a classic, I'll eat my hat. It has every possibility of being good...the only problem is that we're in peak superhero fatigue now. Personally, I wish that the MCU films had ended with AVENGERS: ENDGAME as that put a really amazing bow on the franchise at that point and wrapped up most of the important plotlines. If it had all ended there, we'd be looking back on the MCU now with relative fondness...a franchise that went out on top and left the audience wanting more. Instead, we're squeezing blood from a stone.
No, it was just an argument that oft-delayed films are always bad. I cited examples where films that had been delayed multiple times ended up being good to excellent. That's all.
All these actors have the vibe of fantasy football for fans. We know them. Craig was relatively unknown though a successful jobbing actor, he wasn't a movie star and neither at the time were Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan... A lot of the success of the debut movie is people going to check out the new guy... I'm testing my argument a bit but still.
Years of discussing these actors and they become like a PM in waiting - by the time they're there, it can fall flat. It worked with Brosnan because he so obviously looked the part and had a sympathetic back story.
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Get one very quick mention? It's quite an important mention!
The article quote's ATJ but doesn't say where the quote was given, maybe it was to The Guardian?
“I don’t feel like I need to have a future drawn out for me. I feel like: whatever’s drawn out for me, I can fuckin’ do better.”
That does not sound like someone who is doing Bond. It sounds more like someone who didn't get the gig. A bit of bitterness there.
The bit of the article with ATJ says:
More recently, Aaron’s career has really taken off. This year alone he stars in Kraven the Hunter, a superhero blockbuster; Nosferatu, with Bill Skarsgård and Nicholas Hoult; and at the time of writing he was tipped as the next James Bond (a rumour he seemed to scotch, saying, “I don’t feel like I need to have a future drawn out for me. I feel like: whatever’s drawn out for me, I can fuckin’ do better”).
I'm glad I brought it to your attention, then.
Can't wait for NOSFERATU. That's one of my most anticipated films of the year.
But how can it better the original @HarryCanyon - or is it a rehash / reimagining / comic book thingy I know nothing about ?
I do think that an actor who already has a decent Hollywood career would be crazy to take the Bond gig. Not least because it can be plausibly argued, the films just aren't very good. And you are stuck with the damn thing, you're under contract, and it's surely the bulk of the year taken up with filming and then promoting.
Absolute heaven for an actor in last chance saloon who has yet to make it big in movies - just about all of them, frankly. Moore was 46 in his debut and had yet to make it in movies either as a star or an actor, Brosnan was in the same position, and so on.
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It's impossible to be better than the original, but I really like the director of the remake (Robert Eggers) and I'm confident that he can deliver something of quality. THE VVITCH and THE NORTHMAN were both excellent. I still need to see THE LIGHTHOUSE but I'm told that it's quite good.
THE LIGHTHOUSE is...interesting. Eggers is indisputably a visionary and, @chrisno1, he's probably the farthest thing from a comic-book guy making movies today. I'm eager to see what he does with NOSFERATU.
Not to mention it's the second time Nosferatu has been remade. Stellar cast, so far.
The Werner Herzog remake with Klaus Kinski (talk about Bond villain / henchman material) was pretty good. My personal favorite take on Nosferatu was "Shadow of the Vampire". A very black comedic take on the filming of Nosferatu where the actor they get to play the Vampire turns out to really be a vampire. My guess is this new version, given Eggers is directing, will most likely be in black and white and shot in the old fashioned 1.33 to 1 aspect ratio (which has made a bit of a comeback these days). With regards to ATJ being offered Bond, it's all just an unsubstantiated report from a not particularly reliable source.
Pictures have already been released from it. It looks like Eggers is shooting in 'black and white' and then 'dying' the frame into other colors ala what they did in the 30s. I'm sure it's all digital vs using actual dye but the effect is the same.
@HowardB Good to see the love for SHADOW OF THE VAMPIRE one of my fav 'horror' movies of recent eras. Is it a drama, a satire, a chiller... endless questions and a great lead preformance from Willem Dafoe as Max Shreck.
Love that film. Dafoe's performance is about as good as it gets. Great supporting cast also. I highly recommend Shadow of the Vampire. Basically a perfect film. Have not seen the film since it was in theaters over 20 years ago. Unfortunately it has never been released on Blu here in the States. Maybe whoever has the rights will be motivated to put it out when Egger's Nosferatu is released to capitalize on that. One can only hope.
I think most of those in the mix to play Bond will be drawing their pensions by the time the next film enters production.
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ATJ is 5'11" Hoult is 6'3" O'Connell is 5'7" so, given their position and distance to the lens, it looks about right. Who's the other guy out, out of interest?
O'Connell is a fine actor. He was great in '71 and Unbroken. Height notwithstanding, I don't see him as Bond. I think Jamie Dornan would be a much better fit for Bond but he's probably too old at 41 (though he looks like early to mid 30's). Regarding Bond and height, since Craig, I think the new Bond standard is pretty much average height or above.
Hadn't really though of Jamie Dornan until I saw Heart of Stone. Not a great movie but he looks the part in it and handles the action scenes and fights really well. The outfit he wears in the first scene is pure Bond.
Probably right. But I think the Craig-established (generously-estimated) 5'11" should be the minimum, along with a degree of obvious physical conditioning. My biggest reservation about Craig - probably my only one - was his height, and he 'played' bigger than he was.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I don't know if this means AJT IS Bond and he is getting roles like this because the industry knows he's the next 007, or if he is making this 28 Days/Weeks sequel, called 28 Years Later, because he won't be 007.
As Bond26 is unlikely to start filming until December or January, I would imagine AJT will have time to film this movie before Bond26 gets going.
The film is supposed to be the start of a trilogy, which doesn't make sense as it is the third film after 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later.
It's interesting the Hollywood trade papers make no reference to the AJT, Bond speculation, but a BBC story does.
There's more bad news for ATJ's future, his film Kraven the Hunter has been delayed again, I think this is the fourth time.
It's now being released in December, two months later than has been planned for a while. Is the movie that bad? Has anyone ever known a good movie to be repeatedly delayed? Don't say NTTD, that was the pandemic.
Delayed movies that ended up being great:
MAD MAX: FURY ROAD
APOCALYPSE NOW
CABIN IN THE WOODS
CAPTAIN PHILLIPS
THE BOURNE IDENTITY
THE BIG SLEEP
TITANIC
That ended up being good:
WORLD WAR Z
IDIOCRACY
THE TREE OF LIFE
Kraven will be another dud, as bad as Madame Web and most recent solo Sony Spider-Man live action efforts. But I wouldn’t expect Eon to hold that against ATJ. At most, they’d make him a lesser offer.
The real question is whether he’s really under consideration. I think I’d like him if they went for it.
"The very words I live by."
Mad Max: Fury Road wasn't great, it was a massive disappointment. Another example of bait and switch, Mad Max gets relegated to a supporting character.
I question how many of those movies were 'delayed'. I'm old enough to remember all of those except The Big Sleep and I don't remember any of them being delayed, not four times certainly.
I thought Fury Road was amazing.
Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you there too. FURY ROAD was arguably the best of the Mad Mad films. I think I still prefer MAD MAX 2/THE ROAD WARRIOR for the simple fact that it had a metal crunchiness to it that the FURY ROAD lacked. Also, MM2 had some of the most insane stuntwork that I've ever seen.
As to the others being delayed, a simply query on the films in IMDB or in Wikipedia will verify the delays that they experienced.
You and the rest of the planet. It was such a "disappointment" that a prequel is hitting IMAX screens this weekend.
yep me too fan of Fury Road. I'm not usually into action for actions sake but that was mighty impressive. in one story I read, fellow director Roberto Rodrigez stood up after the premier and asked Miller "how the hell did you film that?" because I dont believe there was much CGI but plenty very dangerous looking stunts
and the scifi concepts were good too, with the control of the water supply and the patriarch characters wives. what a detailed and well thought out postapocalytpic society. like a war over the last remaining gas station was prophetic enough, but we're pretty much there now in real life and Miller has shown us other disturbing ways in which our society can quite predictably break down further.
and then theres Charlize Theron suddenly displaying the most incredible action chops
Apocalypse Now was a legendarily delayed and overbudget movie. Coulda been called Apocalypse Exactly When Mr Coppola? I just read an article referencing all that today, because Coppola has another huge problem plagued movie about to open. his wife did a documentary about all the problems filming Apocalypse Now, and the documentary is almost as entertaining as the film itself
add Brazil to the list of delayed films well worth the wait and now considered a classic. I think all of Gilliams films had problems with schedule and budget, the others its more subjective whether it was worth it or not, but whenever I'm watching it I am absolutely certain Brazil is the finest motion picture ever made. I recall shouting that out loud in the movie theatre the first time I saw it.
wait, just reading further upthread... the delayed film that may yet be a classic is Kraven the Hunter?
these Sony Universe SpiderMan spinoffs have all sunk without a trace so precedent is not good
If KRAVEN ends up being a classic, I'll eat my hat. It has every possibility of being good...the only problem is that we're in peak superhero fatigue now. Personally, I wish that the MCU films had ended with AVENGERS: ENDGAME as that put a really amazing bow on the franchise at that point and wrapped up most of the important plotlines. If it had all ended there, we'd be looking back on the MCU now with relative fondness...a franchise that went out on top and left the audience wanting more. Instead, we're squeezing blood from a stone.
No, it was just an argument that oft-delayed films are always bad. I cited examples where films that had been delayed multiple times ended up being good to excellent. That's all.
All these actors have the vibe of fantasy football for fans. We know them. Craig was relatively unknown though a successful jobbing actor, he wasn't a movie star and neither at the time were Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan... A lot of the success of the debut movie is people going to check out the new guy... I'm testing my argument a bit but still.
Years of discussing these actors and they become like a PM in waiting - by the time they're there, it can fall flat. It worked with Brosnan because he so obviously looked the part and had a sympathetic back story.
Roger Moore 1927-2017