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Critics consensus on Rotten tomatoes: Spectre nudges Daniel Craig's rebooted Bond closer to the glorious, action-driven spectacle of earlier entries, although it's admittedly reliant on established 007 formula.

- So that's interesting, like it ends up setting up Dr. No or something?

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I think it means it has increased humour ( with Q, I'm guessing) so is
more like the Big epic Roger Moore Bonds ?

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Shatterfang wrote:

Critics consensus on Rotten tomatoes: Spectre nudges Daniel Craig's rebooted Bond closer to the glorious, action-driven spectacle of earlier entries, although it's admittedly reliant on established 007 formula.

- So that's interesting, like it ends up setting up Dr. No or something?

It means in style, like GF, YOLT, TSWLM, Brosnan's films, etc.

Dr. No isn't an action-driven spectacle by any means.

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ok, i get it now, though those two statements seem to contradict each other

I also had a little theory:

Skyfall, when it first premiered in the UK it was sitting at about 97% positive reviews, then when it got to the States it dropped down to 92%

Skyfall focused on more emotion and less action. I have a theory that with Spectre it is going to be just the opposite. I think because there is more action and less emotion (as the critics are saying), that USA will enjoy it a bit more, we might see those numbers reverse. It may even be considered the Dark Knight of Bond movies (for lack of a better comparison)

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Alittle disappointed reading some of the reviews about all the quirky humor. I know that, it's an old school bond thing...I definitely get it. As for myself, I really appreciated the "grown-upness" of the Craig era movies. Ah well....It's not like I still won't see this like three times in the theater ajb007/smile

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Interesting observation re Rotten Tomatoes: I noticed most "artsy fartsy" indie or foreign language films get higher overall ratings (lots of 89 to 100%) than more mainstream films. It will be interesting to see the results/views of movie goers when "SPECTRE" actually hits theaters in broad release.

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It seems to me the humor isn't being cheesy like the Roger moore era, it is genuinely funny - well Skyfall didn't make me laugh, but you do get a big grin on your face at some parts like when he calls M a b****, the only cringe worthy one-liner from skyfall i'd say was at the end 'I was in deep water!" , and just think that was the last one-liner M ever heard him say. I am confident about the humor, Wade and Purvis were in charge of that, and they are really getting better as writers

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ajb007/biggrin  Totally agree Shatterfang, that last line, was the only one I thought
out of place and could have been cut.  ajb007/martini

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Shatterfang wrote:

Critics consensus on Rotten tomatoes: Spectre nudges Daniel Craig's rebooted Bond closer to the glorious, action-driven spectacle of earlier entries, although it's admittedly reliant on established 007 formula.

ajb007/martini  Sounds good to me!

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I don't mind it having humour. I don't mind it having gadgets and outlandish plots. I also don't mind it being dark and gritty. It's all about balance. Too much of any of those things could bring the film down.

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I've seen the film. It doesn't have the dramatic or emotional impact of Casino Royale or Skyfall, so when the end credits start rolling you're left feeling a little empty. There isn't much story and it's pretty obvious who's really who after all the fuss. The main flaw is the relationship between Bond and the villain isn't developed, to such a degree that you wonder if there was any point.

As with Skyfall there are issues with story logic and motivation, but this one gets away with it better due to the emphasis on classic-style Bond entertainment.

The pre-title sequence is as exciting as possible given some poor green screen work; the rest of the visual effects, by ILM this time, are fine. I found the much-hyped car chase a bit of a damp squib. The fight scene is the most satisfying bit of action.

There were a few moments when I wanted Thomas Newman to shut the *beep* up. A much better score could have helped this film quite a bit. Sam Smith's song doesn't screw up the titles too badly. An instrumental of it appears over one scene later in the film to at least try and tie things together.

Monica Bellucci fans will be disappointed with her limited screen time. Lea Seydoux gives the film its heart and soul; it almost feels like Madeleine's story is more important than Bond's. Fiennes, Harris and Whishaw are as good as before. Christoph Waltz enjoys his role playing Christoph Waltz. I don't watch Sherlock but I understand Andrew Scott is the same in everything, so I guess he's done the same here.

It's the funniest of the Craig films by some distance, with many of the laughs provided by Q.

Quantum of Solace haters will sadly be able to use this film as ammunition against that undervalued earlier Craig film, courtesy of the opening titles and a scene near the climax.

I'd keep your eyes closed during the title sequence if you're scared of octopuses (or 'octopi' if you prefer).

The film doesn't really stay in the memory for long which I guess is what ultimately prevents it from being a classic, but it's still good and those who have been missing all the classic Bond tropes will lap it up.

Those critics who gave it 3.5 out of 5 have it right, I think. Maybe a rewatch will push it up to 4/5 because I'll take it for what it is rather than what it isn't. It's certainly a flawed film, though, Bond or otherwise.

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Skyfall didn't have that much emotion, they saved all the drama till the very end. If Spectre does the same, that's all i need, a 'my parents are dead', is all i need to give bond enough incentive to look good and defeat evil . 3.5/5 is Quantum of Solace level to me. I will definetely like it better than that. None of the original films were personal missions up until OHMSS. They have always been action driven rather than emotion driven and thats how it should be with just a little drama tossed at the end for good measure. I will defend Spectre to the death!

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blame_thatcher wrote:

I've seen the film. It doesn't have the dramatic or emotional impact of Casino Royale or Skyfall, so when the end credits start rolling you're left feeling a little empty. There isn't much story and it's pretty obvious who's really who after all the fuss. The main flaw is the relationship between Bond and the villain isn't developed, to such a degree that you wonder if there was any point.

As with Skyfall there are issues with story logic and motivation, but this one gets away with it better due to the emphasis on classic-style Bond entertainment.

The pre-title sequence is as exciting as possible given some poor green screen work; the rest of the visual effects, by ILM this time, are fine. I found the much-hyped car chase a bit of a damp squib. The fight scene is the most satisfying bit of action.

There were a few moments when I wanted Thomas Newman to shut the *beep* up. A much better score could have helped this film quite a bit. Sam Smith's song doesn't screw up the titles too badly. An instrumental of it appears over one scene later in the film to at least try and tie things together.

Monica Bellucci fans will be disappointed with her limited screen time. Lea Seydoux gives the film its heart and soul; it almost feels like Madeleine's story is more important than Bond's. Fiennes, Harris and Whishaw are as good as before. Christoph Waltz enjoys his role playing Christoph Waltz. I don't watch Sherlock but I understand Andrew Scott is the same in everything, so I guess he's done the same here.

It's the funniest of the Craig films by some distance, with many of the laughs provided by Q.

Quantum of Solace haters will sadly be able to use this film as ammunition against that undervalued earlier Craig film, courtesy of the opening titles and a scene near the climax.

I'd keep your eyes closed during the title sequence if you're scared of octopuses (or 'octopi' if you prefer).

The film doesn't really stay in the memory for long which I guess is what ultimately prevents it from being a classic, but it's still good and those who have been missing all the classic Bond tropes will lap it up.

Those critics who gave it 3.5 out of 5 have it right, I think. Maybe a rewatch will push it up to 4/5 because I'll take it for what it is rather than what it isn't. It's certainly a flawed film, though, Bond or otherwise.

Thanks for the balanced and honest review.

For me, I don't think SPECTRE can be worse than the terrible Skyfall, So I think I am personally onto a winner regardless ajb007/martini

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Imdb gives it 8,8/10 from 557 users. That's A LOT.  ajb007/martini

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Twitter reviews coming in. Mostly positive but be aware of spoilers.

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Just got back. Absolutely loved it. 9/10  - It's great fun.

I wouldn't listen to me though - I loved Quantum of Solace too.

Just go and see it and enjoy. It's really very good

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Just got back.
First reaction is that I loved it though I'm still riding the wave of fanboy meltdown.

Once I calm down my view might change. Definitely need another viewing soon to solidify any views I do have.

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All I will say is "ohhhhhh yeah!!!!! ".  ajb007/cheers  ajb007/cheers  ajb007/cheers

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I've just got back from the cinema too. And I don't know what to say really... I think I liked it... Still processing it but I think I need to re-watch before totally making my mind up. Would agree with blame_thatcher on almost all points. Probably just about makes a 4/5, but I think it only grow on me more once I see it again.

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I've just seen it and my spoiler free review is that it is a 10/10 it has everything I as a Bond fan want. There are homages as you'd expect but handled deftly and not awfully like in DAD all those years ago. It's set pieces are fantastic, the script has a great mix of humour and the serious. Threads are tied up properly. The supporting actors are fantastic throughout and Craig is truly a great Bond. I really do want to just go and see it again. For me it's better than Skyfall and as a QOS2 that is plain right ridiculous. This is without doubt my favourite of DC's outings as Bond - and although I am not a fan of the Sam Smith song - it does fit well with the film. So there you go no plot spoilers just me saying how this film is perfect for a Bond fan like me.  ajb007/bond

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Likewise I just got back and I enjoyed it tremendously. 

The worst thing about it is I'll have to wait another three years to get that excitement which started bubbling away inside me as I sat through 20 minutes of Cinema ads and then trailers of future film releases which seemed to go on and on. 

Then the moment arrived the roar of the MGM Lion, the film passed by in an flash.

I am now jealous of anyone who hasn't seen it, I'd forgot that special feeling watching a Bond movie at the cinema for the very first time.

Next time I see it, it will be in an IMAX Theatre.

This will in time be in my top three all time favourites.

I can't wait to watch it again however the amount of kids in the theatre and them constantly wanting to go for a piss was unbelievable, so it will deffo be after the half term break.

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I'm just a poor Yank waiting until Nov. 6th... ajb007/crap

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
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Thundernuts wrote:

Just got back. Absolutely loved it. 9/10  - It's great fun.

I wouldn't listen to me though - I loved Quantum of Solace too.

Just go and see it and enjoy. It's really very good

Well I love QoS either so I put all my fate in you ajb007/wink Can't wait 'till wednesday.

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chrisisall wrote:

I'm just a poor Yank waiting until Nov. 6th... ajb007/crap

Likewise  ajb007/frown

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Reading positive reviews are getting me excited to see this one. I had high hopes for Daniel, and living in the US I still have some time to wait before it comes out. Very excited~

Btw, new user here, glad to be here ajb007/smile

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