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Topic: Autograph Reference Section

Due to the amount of new collectors that appear to be getting ripped off by fakers who are selling them worthless tat, I have put together a quick reference part that will hopefully help them see what is real and what isn't.

This guide could prove very useful for new or inexperienced collectors so that they can be prevented from being 'stung' by the rising number of fakers out there.

So, I have included the Bond actors' section, I will soon post up a Bond villains and Bond girls section, demonstrating again what a real and fake look like.

Here are a few examples of what a genuine and what a fake autograph of each of the Bond actors look like:

Hope this helps!

Pierce Brosnan
Fake
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2262/brosnan.jpg
Genuine
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4237/piercebrosnan11.jpg

Roger Moore
Fake
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4492/mooref.jpg
Genuine
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2492/rogermoore5.jpg

Timothy Dalton
Fake
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4052/daltonj.jpg
Genuine
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9327/timothydalton7.jpg

Daniel Craig
Fake
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9264/craigk.jpg
Genuine
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5845/danielcraig8.jpg

Sean Connery
Fake
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9392/connery.jpg
Genuine
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5628/seanconnery9.jpg

George Lazenby
Fake
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/530/lazenby.jpg
Genuine
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5407/georgelazenby2.jpg

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I think this is a good idea Jamie - no doubt arising from the RM autograph issue recently?

What may be an idea, and to save you loads of your own time by having to post the baddies, girls, bit-parts etc, is that a thread is opened for AJBers who are 'unsure or uncertain' about the authenticity of an autograph (perhaps before purchasing or maybe already in their collection) and post a picture so fellow collectors may comment?

Whilst my exeperience in the field of Bond autographs is fairly extensive, it doesn't compare to you, or indeed some of the others on this forum. If I am ever in the position of doubting, I would normally come here (well, you and Mark first!).

What do people think?

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I think this is a great idea!!!  I am still relatively new to Bond autographs (I have been collecting autographs for less than a year), and I know the advice from people on these forums has been a great help to me so far. While I think I'm starting to get a better feel for some of the more well known actors from the series, there are still plenty of things to watch out for....so I think a thread like this would be a great way for everyone to share knowledge with each other and help out the newer collectors.

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I think this is a great idea - so much so I've made it a 'sticky !!

Scouse not English
The higher the monkey climbs the more you can see its arse

YNWA: Justice For The 96

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nice one tilly....

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Disco Volante wrote:

I think this is a good idea Jamie - no doubt arising from the RM autograph issue recently?

What may be an idea, and to save you loads of your own time by having to post the baddies, girls, bit-parts etc, is that a thread is opened for AJBers who are 'unsure or uncertain' about the authenticity of an autograph (perhaps before purchasing or maybe already in their collection) and post a picture so fellow collectors may comment?

Whilst my exeperience in the field of Bond autographs is fairly extensive, it doesn't compare to you, or indeed some of the others on this forum. If I am ever in the position of doubting, I would normally come here (well, you and Mark first!). What do people think?

Cheers Andy - your feedback there is much appreciated. ajb007/smile ajb007/martini

I'll look into doing a thread as you suggested where people can query an autographs authenticity and can reply accordingly to them. ajb007/bond

jaash wrote:

I think this is a great idea!!!  I am still relatively new to Bond autographs (I have been collecting autographs for less than a year), and I know the advice from people on these forums has been a great help to me so far. While I think I'm starting to get a better feel for some of the more well known actors from the series, there are still plenty of things to watch out for....so I think a thread like this would be a great way for everyone to share knowledge with each other and help out the newer collectors.

My thoughts exactly matey! I have over 11 years experience in James Bond autographs so am always happy to lend a hand when required.

Sir Miles wrote:

I think this is a great idea - so much so I've made it a 'sticky !!

You've beaten me to it Sir Miles, I was going to ask for it to be made a 'sticky' since it seems an important enough topic! ajb007/tongue

ke02eww wrote:

nice one tilly....

Cheers

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Yes, a great idea indeed!

DG

So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee124/DonaldGrantPhotos/image_zps6a725e59.jpg
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."  Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.

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Love the idea of having a place to post questionable autographs!! I have seen a few items that I'd like to add to my collection, but have a difficult time buying on the word of the seller...It would be great to be able to have the experts here verify authenticity!!

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ttdriver wrote:

Love the idea of having a place to post questionable autographs!! I have seen a few items that I'd like to add to my collection, but have a difficult time buying on the word of the seller...It would be great to be able to have the experts here verify authenticity!!

By all means, post away any queries you have regarding the authenticity of an autograph!!

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Just what the doctor ordered. This is long overdue, and I will also be happy to pass my thoughts onto potential sales. It may worry some people, but in my opinion, the ONLY  people currently regulaly selling genuine  bond signatures is BONDSTARS. I do not trust any of the other big sellers anymore, just my opinion, sorry.

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DOUBLE-00 wrote:

Just what the doctor ordered. This is long overdue, and I will also be happy to pass my thoughts onto potential sales. It may worry some people, but in my opinion, the ONLY  people currently regulaly selling genuine  bond signatures is BONDSTARS. I do not trust any of the other big sellers anymore, just my opinion, sorry.

In TOTAL agreement with you about BONDSTARS, Double-00

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Dr No07 wrote:

In TOTAL agreement with you about BONDSTARS, Double-00

Me too, seconded!

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while i love this thread and can't believe no one tgt of it before (esp me ajb007/embarrassed ) might be an idea for our experts to huddle on the qn of groundrules.... Obviously opinions are just that but anything else might excite the legal profession....

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Ok, so here is a poster for all of you autograph experts to have at...claimed to be authentic, but I bow to your expertise before I will take anyone elses word!
http://s3.postimage.org/7E3Jr.jpg

Thanks!!!

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TTDriver, that poster you have asked us to verify is 100% FAKE!!

Notice how the scammer has used virtually the same type of pen (sharpie) most probably and also the same colour of ink has been used on most of the siggies. This is another common thing that they tend to do.

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Also, that poster is widely available and easy to obtain, so it's no wonder that we see hundreds of them daily. There is only one of that poster that I've seen autographed that is actually genuine and is/was owned by 'JamesBondMM' on here. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/James-Bond-007-or … 1c10054c3c

http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!BduWY3!CGk~$(KGrHqIOKiwEq4bSsd8jBK6KZ))-dQ~~_12.JPG

Is he saying where the signatures were ontained from?

I really can't see Connery signing TTM.

Moore will sign (sometimes TTM) but that's what Bondstars are there for, to sell autographs on his behalf with some proceeds of sales being given to Unicef.

Lazenby you only really have a chance of getting at an autograph show as he is difficult to get TTM.

Brosnan is 'iffy' sometimes, he will sign occasionally via film sets and IP.

Craig has got more difficult to obtain now he is in the height of his career being Bond and all that so is literally swamped with letters.

Dalton, why oh why he would even go near a Bond item to sign now I do not know, the man is a no-no on Bond material now and is even difficult to get on the most basic of items such as index cards and autograph books, so he won't and hasn't signed any Bond material for over 20 years as he has cottoned on to the amount of people that sell his autographs on Ebay.

Might not be what you wanted to hear but you did ask after all!

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Tilly Masterson 007 wrote:

Dalton, why oh why he would even go near a Bond item to sign now I do not know, the man is a no-no on Bond material now and is even difficult to get on the most basic of items such as index cards and autograph books, so he won't and hasn't signed any Bond material for over 20 years as he has cottoned on to the amount of people that sell his autographs on Ebay.

I think that's such a shame - I can just about understand his reasons, but I think thats a real shame for Bond fans that would like his autograph for their personal collection.

Scouse not English
The higher the monkey climbs the more you can see its arse

YNWA: Justice For The 96

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A word of advice from a collector for 45 years, with signed pieces from over 1,100 different Bond cast and crew---
If you CAN'T...

  • 1  get an in-person signature at a show or event
    2  contact the star yourself through an agency or management (and then just minor stars)
    3  trade with a fellow collector you can really trust
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bid or purchase from an officially licensed business representing contracted artists, like BONDSTARS
then don't bother or waste your money. 

No manner how carefully you scrutinize or compare yours to an authentic original, there are technological ways of duplicating signatures down to a molecule.  I have actually thrown photos and signatures away rather than believe I had a bogus item or refused to scam someone else with a trade.  Or am I just old and paranoid?

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Sir Miles wrote:

I think that's such a shame - I can just about understand his reasons, but I think thats a real shame for Bond fans that would like his autograph for their personal collection.

I agree with you Sir Miles regarding his reason for not signing Bond stuff anymore and it is also a shame for the genuine Bond fans who like you said, would like his autograph for their collection and are unable to (without an expense) have one.

Dr No07 wrote:

Bid or purchase from an officially licensed business representing contracted artists, like BONDSTARS
then don't bother or waste your money.

Best advice you can get - back this up fully!

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Thanks all for your input...I figured as much-from all of the information I have gleaned through you all.
While they are claimed "originals" the guy has been rather vague on where they came from, etc. so I was iffy.
I'm not a huge autograph collector for the very reasons you have all stated-very difficult to verify unless seen with your own eyes.
Thanks again!!

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Tilly Masterson 007 wrote:

http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!BduWY3!CGk~$(KGrHqIOKiwEq4bSsd8jBK6KZ))-dQ~~_12.JPG

I remember one of these posters on eBay with Harold Sakata's autograph on it, and found that it's one real pain in the backside trying to get eBay to pull it.

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ttdriver wrote:

While they are claimed "originals" the guy has been rather vague on where they came from, etc. so I was iffy.

I wonder why he was a bit vague - clearly struggling to conjure up a plausible excuse to cover up his lies of where he got this 'wonderful' signed poster. ajb007/rolleyes ajb007/insane ajb007/shifty

Mark Hazard wrote:

I remember one of these posters on eBay with Harold Sakata's autograph on it, and found that it's one real pain in the backside trying to get eBay to pull it.

It just shows you how these brainless idiots will sign even a long deceased actors signature and pass it off as an original - even in the most modern of pens (commonly sharpie) which would not have been around possibly at the time Sakata was in GF or even before his death.

The good old saying comes to mind here, If it looks to good to be true, then it probably is!

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Okay......here are three that I'll offer up for opinions from you guys.  So go ahead....dish out the bad news if you think they're fakes, I can take it!!  Especially since I may still be able to get refunds for a couple of them if I can prove they are fakes....

First up, a Goldfinger cast I just got a few days ago....with Connery, Honor Blackman, and Martin Benson.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll120/jaash_photos/Goldfinger.jpg

Next, a Connery index card
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll120/jaash_photos/SeanConnery.jpg

And finally, Dalton and Virginia Hey
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll120/jaash_photos/TimothyDalton_VirginiaHey.jpg

What do you guys think?  If the general consensus is that they're fakes, I'm going to see what I can do about a refund.  And even if that's not possible, it's a good lesson learned and I know to avoid certain sellers in the future.  And I will re-evaluate my Bond autograph collection -- I'm certain that many are real because they are either from Bondstars.com, TTM successes, or autos I received in person....but I'll be highly skeptical about several that I received from other sellers.

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They all look 100% real deal to me there. Love that Goldfinger multisign by Connery, Blackman and Benson - bet that'll be worth a few bob?!!

Were these all obtained from Bond Collectibles?

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Tilly Masterson 007 wrote:

They all look 100% real deal to me there. Love that Goldfinger multisign by Connery, Blackman and Benson - bet that'll be worth a few bob?!!

Were these all obtained from Bond Collectibles?

Thanks for the opinion - that makes me feel MUCH better!! ajb007/smile

Yes, all three of those are from Bond Collectibles. I know it's tough to ever be 100% certain of an item that is purchased, no matter what the reputation of the seller is...but those looked pretty good to my admittedly untrained eye.

It really is a shame that there are so many fakes out there, so the opinions of everyone on this forum are much appreciated by people like me who are trying to learn while still building a nice collection!