James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Like DC007, this is a busy time of year for me as well, but great to see a couple of new posts on the thread when I checked in this evening!

    Glad also to see that the JBCC is still winning fans, even though it's now nearly a year since the last issue went out in the UK.
    That was a real bargain purchase, danjb1992 - plus, assuming that's the same collection that I saw posted on Gary's Facebook group, I seem to remember that it included all three of the subscriber issues in the deal, not so?

    Which of the FYEO Lotus issues are you referring to, the bronze (issue 8) or white (issue 68) one?

    Let us know which issues after 107 you are looking for, perhaps one or more of us can assist.

    Interesting to hear that about the sky blue Plymouth, D110 - yes, it was very well done. Coincidentally I should be picking up the Savoy Taxi (issue 123) this weekend!
    I doubled up on the maroon Merc 200D (issue 122), but what a challenge to find two with correctly angled door handles! I had to visit several newsagents that I don't normally try in the process. I know it's relatively easy to sort out skew handles, but I prefer it if I don't have to.

    I am looking forward to that Greenlight Escie, but it would actually suit me if it only arrived around February - discretionary spending tends to go to more season-related causes over the next two months :)
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Well, time to resurrect this thread. After doing some research, that one blue 1959 Plymouth is a custom. It's a VERY good custom, but still a custom; the production model will be red and white. The 1960 Fords are, however, going to be released in the next group of Premium X Diecast (I think the '59 Savoy is one release off). If you missed the boat on this one, that means you get a second chance. I believe the fender ornaments are P/E, as well, which means even though they're not going to be smaller in terms of physical size of the circular "aperture", they will be least be thinner. You could probably improve the JBCC model a little bit by transferring the P/E parts, if that's your thing. By the way, the Ford Escort RS2000 by Greenlight isn't out yet, though you should see it shortly.

    "Bottom line is that the majority of these models are no longer worth half of their original cost as secondhand items, as many of us suspected would be the case!"

    Bingo. The prices on some of the later Ixo models are still up there, but most of the earlier Universal Hobbies models (as in, not the Rolls-Royce Phantom III Sedanca de Ville just yet, nor the Skyfall DB5) and the pre-120 Ixo models save the two hearses and also the '89 Ford Bronco II, VAZ-2106 St. Petersburg Militsiya GAI, Lada Niva 1600L, and ZIL-117 seem to be dropping precipitously.

    Shame about the pale blue Plymouth, it looks good in that colour. Unless I'm mistaken, it's an authentic colour that the real thing appeared in too. I'm currently collecting classic US model cars made by Vitesse and Yatming and it seems to be a bit of a minefield trying to figure out what was a genuine paint/trim scheme and what's been made up.

    Regarding JBCC prices, the Eaglemoss site currently still has many issues still available to the UK at £7.99 each inc post which won't help second-hand resale values. Having said that, they're still only showing back issues running up to number 113, which might be boosting the values of numbers 114 - 134.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    danjb1992 wrote:

    Yes, i have sold, and plan to sell more of them, but those are the stuff im really not interested in, but there are some amazing ones i have been wanting for years, and am glad i bought the bulk when i did for the price!!!!!

    My advice would be to keep a few unwanted models to one side as 'spares', particularly in terms of the Perspex cases. They are a nightmare to try and source in undamaged condition without paying through the nose for them!
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,777MI6 Agent
    edited November 2013
    Heh, irronically since my last post I got a voucher from work. That has enabled me to get an Aston Vanquish as my own personal Code 5 linking to the Code 4s. However, I will try to link it into a scene from one of the films if I can. A converged Code 3 & 4 as my Code 5

    - This will make sense when I piece it all together next year!
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    edited November 2013
    I wouldn't bet on this. With Mattel now having a Bond licence for a 1:43 and 1:18 GF DB5, it would be very surprising to see Minichamps Bond cars at the same time. But I had not seen the item number P137720B before, as the TLD Aston was announced with no. 436 137720. (The later released non-Bond V8 coupe in Cumberland Grey had the no. 400 137720.) So the 'B' suffix could indicate a different version, in this case the Bond TLD car.

    But - I have searched for P137720B and found this PDF file of Minichamps 2010 announcements where the TLD Aston is already listed with this item number. I guess that Diecastlegends has this on pre-order since 2010 and it is not a recent addition.
    http://bibouroku1-43.cocolog-nifty.com/musekininn/files/minichamps-2010-announcements.pdf

    I have the feeling that the TLD Astons could be the next Bond cars from Hot Wheels after the GF DB5. After all the Vantage coupe and convertible are the only ones not available as high-quality diecast as the Minichamps version did not materialize. With the Minichamps Esprits now sold off cheaply I don't see a large market for a Hot Wheels Esprit selling for £70! (Except if they try to make the car with hide-away wheels and extending fins in 1:43. That surely would be interesting.)


    If we don't see a TLD Aston from Minichamps or Hot Wheels, British Heritage Models has commissioned another 'run' (I guess five pieces each) of the TLD coupe and convertible from SMTS. They can be found on ebay. I am not affiliated with the seller (wish I was ;)) but I found Frank Jones of BHM very nice and interested when I communicated with him about TLD versions of SMTS's Vantage coupe and convertible.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    edited November 2013
    danjb1992 wrote:
    I was looking through the FYEO Lotus and noticed the pictures inside the magazine were different to the official release. Can someone confirm who had the original pre-mock up design of this, as it is LOADS more accurate?
    Yes, I can confirm that the more accurate original pre-mock up design can be found on ebay by typing "Bond Lotus Turbo Minichamps". :)

    Fabbri used Minichamps models for some of their early magazine photos. This is from the Czech JBCC website
    http://auta-jamese-bonda.cz/index.html but the photos are still the same.

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    The Toyota, Esprit and Z3 are from Minichamps (with added JBCC figures). You can tell from the rear wheel arch of the Minichamps Toyota which is much lower than on the real car, and from the wrong disc wheels on the Minichamps Z3. The Minichamps Esprit Turbo is indeed more accurate than the JBCC version because of the different wheel and tyre sizes front and rear.

    (Edit: double post, so I split it)
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    ... But I had not seen the item number P137720B before, as the TLD Aston was announced with no. 436 137720. (The later released non-Bond V8 coupe in Cumberland Grey had the no. 400 137720.) So the 'B' suffix could indicate a different version, in this case the Bond TLD car.

    Hi RW, yes, Minichamps use two numbering systems in parallel for their models, the full 9-digit one is the official one but there is also an abbreviated version that is used between them and their retailers for ordering, etc. You can see the shortened version in use here: http://www.leighsdiary.com/minichamps-release-schedule/
    For roadcars, 1/18 models have the prefix PG and then the last six digits of the full product code, and 1/43 models have the prefix P and then the last six digits of the full product code. Over time there will be models of the same scale having the same last six digits in their codes and so the second one to be announced/issued will get the 'B' suffix to differentiate it from the first one - just as you thought was the case with the two examples you have given :)

    Minichamps has been finally releasing some REALLY old announcements from their backlog of late, like the VW Golf Mk.1 (3 versions) and the Rover SD1 Vitesse, both of which were announced several years ago. So maybe they will finally get around to making that TLD Vantage as well - time will tell.

    Interesting info about the promo Lotus Turbo, I had never noticed that before (not surprising as in the early days of the JBCC I knew of no fellow collectors to discuss the models with, I think I found this forum around the time I already had 20+ issues).
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Thanks for explaining the two numbering systems, FACT. Your link is interesting because of the posts below:
    126 On November 17th, Dalton Fan said:

    Hi there,

    I see from the site that there is a Minichamps 1/43 replica of the Aston Martin from the James Bond film ‘The Livings Daylights’ due soonish.

    Do you know if this is going to have any working gadgets, like the minichamps 1/43 ‘Goldfinger’ DB5?

    Thanks



    127 On November 18th, Leigh 'Diecast' Hobden said:

    Minichamps hasn’t informed us that this replica is going to feature working gadgets
    Too bad this wasn't posted this November but three years ago ... :#
  • danjb1992danjb1992 Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    Like DC007, this is a busy time of year for me as well, but great to see a couple of new posts on the thread when I checked in this evening!

    Glad also to see that the JBCC is still winning fans, even though it's now nearly a year since the last issue went out in the UK.
    That was a real bargain purchase, danjb1992 - plus, assuming that's the same collection that I saw posted on Gary's Facebook group, I seem to remember that it included all three of the subscriber issues in the deal, not so?

    Which of the FYEO Lotus issues are you referring to, the bronze (issue 8) or white (issue 68) one?

    Let us know which issues after 107 you are looking for, perhaps one or more of us can assist.

    Interesting to hear that about the sky blue Plymouth, D110 - yes, it was very well done. Coincidentally I should be picking up the Savoy Taxi (issue 123) this weekend!
    I doubled up on the maroon Merc 200D (issue 122), but what a challenge to find two with correctly angled door handles! I had to visit several newsagents that I don't normally try in the process. I know it's relatively easy to sort out skew handles, but I prefer it if I don't have to.

    I am looking forward to that Greenlight Escie, but it would actually suit me if it only arrived around February - discretionary spending tends to go to more season-related causes over the next two months :)


    Hi mate, yes it WAS the set i posted up on Garys facebook page a while back. and yes, it did include the 3 subscriber set as well as 2 spare Batman cars. I did get a bargain, as it was local and the original owner was moving the day before i bought them, and he told me his wife said NO to taking them with him! :#

    I think the list of models would be of interest are === 108, 109,119,120, 123,124,126,129,131 - most of these are the muscle cars ironically !!!! - but happy to consider swaps and i still have the subscriber set for sale/swaps too if anyone is interested, aswell as lots of the models upto around 80-90.

    the issue i meant was NO8 FYEO orange spec version. For those who have the magazine, check the inside cover and see much more detail in the preview pics then the actual model that was eventually made!!

    I do not plan on moving on all the models straight away, so ill have the early unpopular ones for quite some time i reckon, so if people want boxes,cars, let me know, and ill try my best to come up with deals :)
  • danjb1992danjb1992 Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    edited December 2013
    danjb1992 wrote:
    I was looking through the FYEO Lotus and noticed the pictures inside the magazine were different to the official release. Can someone confirm who had the original pre-mock up design of this, as it is LOADS more accurate?
    Yes, I can confirm that the more accurate original pre-mock up design can be found on ebay by typing "Bond Lotus Turbo Minichamps". :)

    Fabbri used Minichamps models for some of their early magazine photos. This is from the Czech JBCC website
    http://auta-jamese-bonda.cz/index.html but the photos are still the same.

    JBCC_CZ.jpg

    The Toyota, Esprit and Z3 are from Minichamps (with added JBCC figures). You can tell from the rear wheel arch of the Minichamps Toyota which is much lower than on the real car, and from the wrong disc wheels on the Minichamps Z3. The Minichamps Esprit Turbo is indeed more accurate than the JBCC version because of the different wheel and tyre sizes front and rear.

    (Edit: double post, so I split it)


    I checked this also with the Minichamps version and it did look exact when i saw this. I thought though that the Minichamps brief 007 range came in the middle of the magazine collection, but obviously it came around the same time this collection started!!!! - but yes, It would confirm my initial feeling that it was the minichamps version they used when i first saw it!
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    danjb1992 wrote:
    I think the list of models would be of interest are === 108, 109,119,120, 123,124,126,129,131 - most of these are the muscle cars ironically !!!! - but happy to consider swaps and i still have the subscriber set for sale/swaps too if anyone is interested, as well as lots of the models up to around 80-90.

    My suggestion, assuming you don't have any luck arranging a swap with a UK collector, would be to start by trying to get these as backorders directly from Eaglemoss - if they are still available in the UK, that would be the cheapest route. Somewhere in this thread is the contact number for the distribution centre ...

    If you draw a blank there, I can assist with sourcing them for you here where I live, in South Africa, where the collection is still running (just got Issue 123 myself this past weekend). On the positive side, backorders are easily sourced here (the oldest one you want, 108, was released here in April so the distributor should still have stock). On the negative side, issue 131 is only expected next March for us, so a bit of a wait there ... and of course the higher cost of postage for international as opposed to domestic might be a deal breaker.
  • danjb1992danjb1992 Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    danjb1992 wrote:
    I think the list of models would be of interest are === 108, 109,119,120, 123,124,126,129,131 - most of these are the muscle cars ironically !!!! - but happy to consider swaps and i still have the subscriber set for sale/swaps too if anyone is interested, as well as lots of the models up to around 80-90.

    My suggestion, assuming you don't have any luck arranging a swap with a UK collector, would be to start by trying to get these as backorders directly from Eaglemoss - if they are still available in the UK, that would be the cheapest route. Somewhere in this thread is the contact number for the distribution centre ...

    If you draw a blank there, I can assist with sourcing them for you here where I live, in South Africa, where the collection is still running (just got Issue 123 myself this past weekend). On the positive side, backorders are easily sourced here (the oldest one you want, 108, was released here in April so the distributor should still have stock). On the negative side, issue 131 is only expected next March for us, so a bit of a wait there ... and of course the higher cost of postage for international as opposed to domestic might be a deal breaker.

    I tried ordering the Ford Country squire last year through eaglemoss, but 6 months down the line , i gave up as they kept messing me about.

    Its not a problem of sourcing them at all, its simply id prefer to do swaps, i appreciate the later numbers are more valuable than the older releases, so prepared model amount wise to be in swap favour of someone else potentially :)
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,198MI6 Agent
    Finally finished another Code 2: Cubby's Rolls @ Pinewood.

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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Great job, PoorMansJB - the studio 'non-movie' setting takes the genre down a whole new road! The mag and background make for a very professional and convincing set, so slick it really looks like it could have been issue 135 (!) B-)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    You know...I'll bet someone could REALLY do something with the '73 Chevy Bel Airs or the '73 Chevy Impala along those lines. Just find some of the Chevrolet Sponsorship photos for the film and colorize them (I know, they're black and white).
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • ArronaxArronax Florida, USAPosts: 45MI6 Agent
    Sorry to barge in again with a non die-cast post but I thought you'd like to see how the Fantastic Plastic SPECTRE Bird One resin model kit turned out. I discarded the Russian capsule that came with the kit and added Dragon's 1/72nd scale Gemini with Spacewalker.

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    I now return you to your regular die-cast discussions.

    Jim
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    -{ Wonderful stuff, congratulations.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Great work!!!
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,198MI6 Agent
    Great job, PoorMansJB - the studio 'non-movie' setting takes the genre down a whole new road! The mag and background make for a very professional and convincing set, so slick it really looks like it could have been issue 135 (!) B-)

    I posted same to facebook and had several folks who didn't read the entire thread and were convinced it was real, wanted to know where to buy one, etc.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Arronax wrote:
    Sorry to barge in again with a non die-cast post but I thought you'd like to see how the Fantastic Plastic SPECTRE Bird One resin model kit turned out. I discarded the Russian capsule that came with the kit and added Dragon's 1/72nd scale Gemini with Spacewalker.

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    I now return you to your regular die-cast discussions.

    Jim

    That's a really nice model - great work! Despite all the times I've seen that movie I've never noticed the 'alligator eyes' on top of the fiendish space capsule-grabber before.

    To me personally, this is as welcome an addition to the thread as the Skyfall 1.72 helicopter and burned out DB5 diorama was. Whilst we can still discuss the remaining JBCC issues yet to be delivered in some countries and any fresh Code3s that might come along, there's not much else on the horizon, so postings like this are great. Call it the JBCC 'legacy' if you will, I don't see why we should have hard and fast rules about what should be submitted as long as it's relevant to Bond or the current discussions (even if they do go a bit 'off-topic' every now and then) or it's simply in the spirit of the JBCC. Had the series gone on for a couple more years I have no doubt it would have touched on more planes, boats, bikes, spacecraft etc. Even the current Batman Automobilia series has already included a boat and at least two aircraft. So, Bond boats, planes, bikes, helicopters, space shuttles etc in die-cast, plastic, resin or papier mache - why not? I say bring em on :)
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Sorry for going off-topic but I had to share this:

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    This is issue 26 of the Batman Automobilia series, available next year

    Did Laurel and Hardy ever appear as Batman and Robin?????? I can just imagine them trying to get their Model T Ford Batmobile started while the bad guys hung around waiting for them to arrive.......... :s
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) That's great.
    " That's another fine mess, you've got me into Robin !"
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited December 2013
    :)) That's great.
    " That's another fine mess, you've got me into Robin !"

    I would like to thank you, TP, for becoming the very first person to make me LITERALLY laugh so hard that a carbonated beverage came out my nose.

    As an aside, can anyone else attempt to picture an old jazz band playing in the background of that car while Cab Calloway slowly (and sarcastically) sings "NAH!...na NAH...na NAH!...na NAH!...na NAH!...nanaNAH! bat-MAAAAN!"
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Happy Christmas to all of the contributors and readers on this thread, and the AJB general forum -{
    And all the best for 2014, hope it's a good year for everybody :007)

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  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Thanks MCF! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you, too! May your coming year be filled with really good 1/43 in addition to the usual health and happiness. :)) :)
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Seasons Greetings also to MCF, D110, RW, DC007, and all the other AJB forum members :)
    May 2014 be a productive & successful year for all of us!
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Happy New Year ! Diecast 007 reporting back after a busy few months with the day job. After a welcome break in London I came home to find a nice Christmas present from Hatfields the Jaguar dealer. I nice black Jaguar XJ, not the real thing unfortunately but a dealer item as made by IXO. So here it is the first James Bond Code 3 of the year. Tony kindly made the background for a Range Rover I requested early in 2013. The Range Rover is still waiting some detail before completion. The background is perfect for this fine looking XJ. I have added 'M's driver . Also the older XJ parked in the background is a perfect nod to the heritage continued in this gorgeous luxury car. Anyway here are a few pictures . Enjoy

    Wishing you all a prosperous new year and happy collecting and lots more code 3's

    All the best

    The name is CAST, DIECAST, DIECAST 007 -{ :))
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  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Sorry for going off-topic but I had to share this:

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    This is issue 26 of the Batman Automobilia series, available next year

    Did Laurel and Hardy ever appear as Batman and Robin?????? I can just imagine them trying to get their Model T Ford Batmobile started while the bad guys hung around waiting for them to arrive.......... :s

    Another reason that this collection was/ is inferior to JBCC. Incidently I did subscribe to the batman collection for my six year old we stopped about March , however we were owed issue 3 which arrived Christmas eve !!!! Not bad only 12 months late.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Happy New Year everyone! Very nice code 3, DC007 -{ and especially your detective work to find a black XJ! :) Not easy to find as those with Ixo in the description are only silver and grey. The black Jaguar looks really nice - well done, Ixo. Could we please have an XJL too?


    To stay with code 3's - there is another 007 model out from SMTS. It was listed in mid-December but I have only found it just yesterday: the battleship-grey DB Mark III from the Goldfinger novel.
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271345481444

    The DB 2/4 Mk III is not a new model and has been done in different colours before but AFAIK it was never available in grey. Note that it is not the colour alone as the box also has "007" added below "Built". It is sold this way directly from SMTS Models.
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    While I was quite excited when I saw this model and I am happy with the SMTS miniatures I own, I have to say the Mk III is not one of their best efforts. I am no Aston Martin expert but from this photo I thought the model looked a bit heavy for an Aston. It is obvious that the wheels and wheel cutouts are much smaller than on the real car, maybe even the whole body too high below the beltline, making the model look plump when compared with a real Mk III.
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  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,777MI6 Agent
    Welcome back Diecast! M's jaguar is a nice addition to the collection and another "Why didn't Eaglemoss do this instead of the DB5 again?!" Category. A worthy SF Code 3 Like Mpenny's Land Rover.

    I have to agree with you and MovieCar on the Batmobiles. I have been keeping an eye on them as I collect the new Star Trek ship collection in my local Forbidden Planet. (It means I can cherry pick the ships I want without subscribing, and FP keep them on a wish list for me so I don't miss out.) Admittedly I haven't seen the feature film cars, - The Keaton and Kilmer versions are my favorite two, but the comic book vehicles are ugly! Moulded in cheap plastic, they just look implausible in 3 dimentions in A way the 60s tv car doesn't. I suspect that even if I did get one of the film cars it would need a lot of work to bring it up to Code 4 standards. Shame really.

    Before Christmas I got my Code 5 car. As soon as I can afford to get a Rolls R to make FAB 1, I will start work on both of them.

    Incidentally, does anyone know which JBCC case is the largest? There are two dioramas I want to do eventually, but they will need large and wide cases. (Not tall like the Acrostar)
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
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