Yeah I told him he has nice pictures of a fake )
Actually comparing the blue and black faced 8500's the Seamaster on the Blue does look more red and more orange on the black even those its the same colour side by side - weird. Even more strange the red of the PO LM LE looks almost pink in colour in some lights.
Pretty impressed the type of shots you can get with something so basic though.
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
Yeah I told him he has nice pictures of a fake )
Actually comparing the blue and black faced 8500's the Seamaster on the Blue does look more red and more orange on the black even those its the same colour side by side - weird. Even more strange the red of the PO LM LE looks almost pink in colour in some lights.
Pretty impressed the type of shots you can get with something so basic though.
Cheers :007)
Yes quite impressive close ups.
I see little variation with my back and blue, the blue maybe slightly brighter but that may be due to the dial being glossy? However the orange turns green under water from about 5 meters down..... Obviously depending on the sea conditions and the light.
The matt more so than the liquid metals agreed, even more so with a bit of lume glowing -{ but even omegas own publicity shots for the blue Ti didn't do it justice despite them having excellent photographs.
I have caught the bug. I fear it might be terminal for my savings account.
As the new owner of a Planet Ocean 600m 2201.50, I now have my eye on a Seamaster Diver 300. I will be buying preowned and don't wont to break the bank. I was hoping the experienced folks here can offer some insights on the 2351.80 vs the 2220.80. I understand the movements being different as well as the cosmetic changes made. I like the design of the older model better. Is the co-axial worth paying more for?
For those of you own or have owned one or both of these watches, what impressions do you have of them? I welcome any and all opinions. And if you have one or another of these you might like to sell, let me know.
Do you mean the 2531.80?
Both excellent watches with excellent movements, I've had the smp in quartz, 1120 movement and now 2500 movement. the best value is the 1120 movement, it's basically the 2500 movement without the coax escapement ( using the traditional Swiss lever) it's far easier to work on and therefore any decent watch repairer will be able to service it. Some here may snicker and mock but the 1120 movement is a good reliable motor and has a smoother second hand sweep than even the 8500 as it has a faster bph rate.
Looks wise I prefer the 2220.80 for its indices and applied omega sign but it's not a deal breaker and few people can spot the difference. The bracelets are simply superb on both incredibly comfortable but a pain to adjust without a proper pin pusher. For some reason I always found the wave dial more prominent on earlier smp's but I've never owned both together to compare.
If you prefer the look of one over the other the motor inside wouldn't bother me as they are both great, the value of the 1120 models (and more so the quartz) these days is making these watches more accessible and a must for any collection imho.
I have caught the bug. (...) you might like to sell, let me know.
I would always advise you to buy the one you'll love looking at most. The inside is important too in watches but the most important thing is that smile on your face when you are checking the time for the 6th time in 5 minutes. When asking advice about women I might give a different answer )
I didn't really like the look of the older SMP 300. It was a nice watch but I am not a big fan of the wave dail. When I saw the 212.30.41.20.03.001 I knew I had found the watch I wanted. So although the Aqua Terra and the Planet Ocean might have had better movements (8500 vs 2500) I choose the watch that I liked looking at the most. The SMP 300 is such a versatile watch. It is not overly big, a sporty but also a classic design that can be dressed up because of the bracelet. Whichever one you choose I hope you will like it as much as I like mine.
One thing I would like to mention is that bracelet. The older 'pin and sleeve' version was a pain to adjust while the newer 'screw it' version is very very easy to handle. Keep this in mind if you like tinkering with the size of your bracelet as there isn't any micro adjustment to be made on the clasp.
I would always advise you to buy the one you'll love looking at most. The inside is important too in watches but the most important thing is that smile on your face when you are checking the time for the 6th time in 5 minutes. When asking advice about women I might give a different answer
) ) )
I hear what you're saying. When I bought my Planet Ocean, I wondered if it was an extravagance. But every time I wear it, it gives me pleasure. I have a number of watches, but this one is such a work of art on my wrist. It's made me decide to pare down my collection to focus on the special ones.
I agree with the comments above, there is not a huge difference 1120 vs 2500 movements and lets face it they are inside you never see them. Both will give sterling service. I have the original SMP from the Brosnan era (in fact had both Chrono and Quartz but let the latter go as I could not justify two similar looking watches at the time). However I really like the later version with raised indicies and red lettering it looks fresh and more modern in my eyes. It was the only time I feel Omega got it right by enhancing a firm favourite (then ruined it by going ceramic in later models).
I would love the later 2500 model but again its to close to original to justify the expense but I will never sell the original as it was my first Omega purchase back in the day.
As others have said go for the one you like the look best after all you will be wearing it
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
I agree with the comments above, there is not a huge difference 1120 vs 2500 movements and lets face it they are inside you never see them. Both will give sterling service. I have the original SMP from the Brosnan era (in fact had both Chrono and Quartz but let the latter go as I could not justify two similar looking watches at the time). However I really like the later version with raised indicies and red lettering it looks fresh and more modern in my eyes. It was the only time I feel Omega got it right by enhancing a firm favourite (then ruined it by going ceramic in later models).
I would love the later 2500 model but again its to close to original to justify the expense but I will never sell the original as it was my first Omega purchase back in the day.
As others have said go for the one you like the look best after all you will be wearing it
Cheers :007)
Similarly I bought the quartz first and it was also my first Omega purchase but not my first Omega, I later traded in for an 1120 which I eventually sold to buy my first po, but I missed the watch and the look and it's become an iconic omega for me , luckily I stumbled upon a battered 2220.80 that I brought back to an acceptable level and I'll never get rid of it. At the time I wasn't bothered if I ended up with the 2500 or an 1120. Though I do agree with bond 44 that for me personally the raised indices and blood red lettering add to the watch. Whichever way you go Cheverian your about to get an iconic watch.
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Sweeeet! ....are you getting me a Berenice Marlohe for Chrimbo Mr Danjaq Claws? {[] :x
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Im sure it will be fine since being on your right arm for a few hours Jizzy
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Saw this today and it stopped me in my tracks and I thought sweeeet
Just a random Friday thought on the 31st day of November
Cheers :007)
P.S the picture just does no do it justice might start ‘P.O. Friday’ like Speedy Tuesday but on POETs day
Why are you wearing 2 PPKs??
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Two Pistols Pete
Cheers :007)
Actually comparing the blue and black faced 8500's the Seamaster on the Blue does look more red and more orange on the black even those its the same colour side by side - weird. Even more strange the red of the PO LM LE looks almost pink in colour in some lights.
Pretty impressed the type of shots you can get with something so basic though.
Cheers :007)
I see little variation with my back and blue, the blue maybe slightly brighter but that may be due to the dial being glossy? However the orange turns green under water from about 5 meters down..... Obviously depending on the sea conditions and the light.
Cheers :007)
Have a good one all
Cheers :007)
As the new owner of a Planet Ocean 600m 2201.50, I now have my eye on a Seamaster Diver 300. I will be buying preowned and don't wont to break the bank. I was hoping the experienced folks here can offer some insights on the 2351.80 vs the 2220.80. I understand the movements being different as well as the cosmetic changes made. I like the design of the older model better. Is the co-axial worth paying more for?
For those of you own or have owned one or both of these watches, what impressions do you have of them? I welcome any and all opinions. And if you have one or another of these you might like to sell, let me know.
Both excellent watches with excellent movements, I've had the smp in quartz, 1120 movement and now 2500 movement. the best value is the 1120 movement, it's basically the 2500 movement without the coax escapement ( using the traditional Swiss lever) it's far easier to work on and therefore any decent watch repairer will be able to service it. Some here may snicker and mock but the 1120 movement is a good reliable motor and has a smoother second hand sweep than even the 8500 as it has a faster bph rate.
Looks wise I prefer the 2220.80 for its indices and applied omega sign but it's not a deal breaker and few people can spot the difference. The bracelets are simply superb on both incredibly comfortable but a pain to adjust without a proper pin pusher. For some reason I always found the wave dial more prominent on earlier smp's but I've never owned both together to compare.
If you prefer the look of one over the other the motor inside wouldn't bother me as they are both great, the value of the 1120 models (and more so the quartz) these days is making these watches more accessible and a must for any collection imho.
Love the red lettering.
You can find one at a very reasonable price.
Welcome to the club -{
I would always advise you to buy the one you'll love looking at most. The inside is important too in watches but the most important thing is that smile on your face when you are checking the time for the 6th time in 5 minutes. When asking advice about women I might give a different answer
I didn't really like the look of the older SMP 300. It was a nice watch but I am not a big fan of the wave dail. When I saw the 212.30.41.20.03.001 I knew I had found the watch I wanted. So although the Aqua Terra and the Planet Ocean might have had better movements (8500 vs 2500) I choose the watch that I liked looking at the most. The SMP 300 is such a versatile watch. It is not overly big, a sporty but also a classic design that can be dressed up because of the bracelet. Whichever one you choose I hope you will like it as much as I like mine.
One thing I would like to mention is that bracelet. The older 'pin and sleeve' version was a pain to adjust while the newer 'screw it' version is very very easy to handle. Keep this in mind if you like tinkering with the size of your bracelet as there isn't any micro adjustment to be made on the clasp.
I hear what you're saying. When I bought my Planet Ocean, I wondered if it was an extravagance. But every time I wear it, it gives me pleasure. I have a number of watches, but this one is such a work of art on my wrist. It's made me decide to pare down my collection to focus on the special ones.
I would love the later 2500 model but again its to close to original to justify the expense but I will never sell the original as it was my first Omega purchase back in the day.
As others have said go for the one you like the look best after all you will be wearing it
Cheers :007)
Similarly I bought the quartz first and it was also my first Omega purchase but not my first Omega, I later traded in for an 1120 which I eventually sold to buy my first po, but I missed the watch and the look and it's become an iconic omega for me , luckily I stumbled upon a battered 2220.80 that I brought back to an acceptable level and I'll never get rid of it. At the time I wasn't bothered if I ended up with the 2500 or an 1120. Though I do agree with bond 44 that for me personally the raised indices and blood red lettering add to the watch. Whichever way you go Cheverian your about to get an iconic watch.