With the rumours of Radiohead having built my expectations, I'm disappointed. I'll probably end up liking it, but it'll be the same old,same old. It could have been an epic, OK Computer like, dark song.
Hmm, I'm not huge fan of the news but also won't say I'm dissapointed. I'm pretty neutral on this one.
Same here. I wasn't a fan of Adele before "Skyfall" and it turned out beautifully. However - Sam Smith's voice is nowhere as awesome as Adele's so I wonder how his song can be potentially better then "Skyfall", which remains the only song in my life that never became boring for me.
I know who is singing the Bond song is a big deal, shown by the media coverage of the announcement, but to me it's not overly important. To me, they're sort of seperate from the films.
I don't like QoS and I don't like Another Way To Die, I don't like Die Another Day and I don't like the Madonna song but they're not inter-linked.
As long as the film is excellent, which I think it will be, I'll happily overlook any disappointment about the song.
Of course, the song could be amazing and we could be worrying for nothing. We'll have to wait and see.
"You are about to wake when you dream that you are dreaming"
The constant rumours about Smith's involvement allowed us to become emotionally prepared for this official announcement, so what's really disappointing to learn is that once again the composer of the score, in this case Thomas Newman, is NOT involved with the song. The title song of a James Bond film is also meant to be a statement of the main theme of the score. This really isn't good enough.
The constant rumours about Smith's involvement allowed us to become emotionally prepared for this official announcement, so what's really disappointing to learn is that once again the composer of the score, in this case Thomas Newman, is NOT involved with the song. The title song of a James Bond film is also meant to be a statement of the main theme of the score. This really isn't good enough.
Yeah I fear the theme song won't be integrated into the score
Yeah I fear the theme song won't be integrated into the score
Don't rule it out - if Sam Smith is to be believed (after previously lying about his involvement in the recording of the song) and he did record it in January, there's been plenty of time in the interim for Newman to work in some of the phrasing to the main score, which will have been only going on since around May time really, when he'll have had some edited principal photography to work with.
Yeah I fear the theme song won't be integrated into the score
Don't rule it out - if Sam Smith is to be believed (after previously lying about his involvement in the recording of the song) and he did record it in January, there's been plenty of time in the interim for Newman to work in some of the phrasing to the main score, which will have been only going on since around May time really, when he'll have had some edited principal photography to work with.
If it is integrated, it would be for a few measures like it was for Skyfall since it's not Thomas Newman's theme. It would be nice if Thomas Newman wrote his own themes for the score, but he's not really a thematic composer. Even when David Arnold didn't write the main theme, like in DAD and QoS, he wrote his own themes and motifs in the score to hold it together. Though I'm bothered that the main theme wasn't written by the film's composer to be included in the score, Thomas Newman doesn't write memorable songs or themes anyway.
Yeah I fear the theme song won't be integrated into the score
Don't rule it out - if Sam Smith is to be believed (after previously lying about his involvement in the recording of the song) and he did record it in January, there's been plenty of time in the interim for Newman to work in some of the phrasing to the main score, which will have been only going on since around May time really, when he'll have had some edited principal photography to work with.
If it is integrated, it would be for a few measures like it was for Skyfall since it's not Thomas Newman's theme. It would be nice if Thomas Newman wrote his own themes for the score, but he's not really a thematic composer. Even when David Arnold didn't write the main theme, like in DAD and QoS, he wrote his own themes and motifs in the score to hold it together. Though I'm bothered that the main theme wasn't written by the film's composer to be included in the score, Thomas Newman doesn't write memorable songs or themes anyway.
Yeah that's why I worry, it's my biggest fear about this movie, everything else seems to be shaping up nicely. Matt S summed it up nicely
I feel that, like Skyfall, the soundtrack will be serviceable and blend in like in Skyfall. But I don't like my Bond soundtracks to blend in. I want them to have their own identity
The constant rumours about Smith's involvement allowed us to become emotionally prepared for this official announcement, so what's really disappointing to learn is that once again the composer of the score, in this case Thomas Newman, is NOT involved with the song. The title song of a James Bond film is also meant to be a statement of the main theme of the score. This really isn't good enough.
Agree. The music is integral to a Bond film, the title song needs to be included in the score. One of the best tracks from Skyfall was "Komodo Dragon" the only track that included the "Skyfall" theme.
And, couldn't agree more, always better to have elements of the title song worked into the soundtrack....
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When the track is available for pre order on iTunes from tonight , should we be expecting an extract from the song to listen to when you normally download / pre order a song this close to release?
Normally when you tap on the song you want to download a bit of the song plays so you can hear before you download.
I'm expecting not to be able to hear an extract when the pre order is availed tonight but does anyone have any idea whether we can expect to hear something?
Usually if the release is in the same month a preview extract is there to listen to , but knowing how the bond marketing has been like so far , we won't hear anything til , most likely , a Scott Mills world exclusive drop next week perhaps?...
With the rumours of Radiohead having built my expectations, I'm disappointed. I'll probably end up liking it, but it'll be the same old,same old. It could have been an epic, OK Computer like, dark song.
This.
The title Spectre would fit perfectly with Radiohead's style too.
And there hasn't been enough bands doing bond themes. 4 out of 24 is a tiny amount.
Never really heard Sam Smith before so I gave him a listen, and I'd heard him before without knowing it. Not impressed at all. His voice is wimpy, and his music sounds like the same old stuff as everything else.
Bands are underrepresented with bond themes.
And the song should be called Spectre, The Writing's On The Wall is an absolutely boring title. I know it's a line from GE, but it just doesn't work, and has zero character. I hate how 3/4 DC films now have themesongs that are not the title of the film. Ok a song called CR might sound cheesey, and QOS I can forgive (although its easy enough to write a song called QOS), but Spectre I can't forgive, as it's a ridiculously easy word to use for a song title. It's not even an unusual word either IMO.
By far the most disappointing news regarding the new film, but I guess I can't say for sure until I hear it.
Never really heard Sam Smith before so I gave him a listen, and I'd heard him before without knowing it. Not impressed at all. His voice is wimpy, and his music sounds like the same old stuff as everything else.
Bands are underrepresented with bond themes.
And the song should be called Spectre, The Writing's On The Wall is an absolutely boring title. I know it's a line from GE, but it just doesn't work, and has zero character. I hate how 3/4 DC films now have themesongs that are not the title of the film. Ok a song called CR might sound cheesey, and QOS I can forgive (although its easy enough to write a song called QOS), but Spectre I can't forgive, and it's a ridiculously easy word to use for a song title. It's not even an unusual word IMO.
By far the most disappointing news regarding the new film, but I guess I can't say for sure until I hear it.
I agree. They used to insist on the Bond themes being a title theme since it would better promote the film.
Never really heard Sam Smith before so I gave him a listen, and I'd heard him before without knowing it. Not impressed at all. His voice is wimpy, and his music sounds like the same old stuff as everything else.
Bands are underrepresented with bond themes.
And the song should be called Spectre, The Writing's On The Wall is an absolutely boring title. I know it's a line from GE, but it just doesn't work, and has zero character. I hate how 3/4 DC films now have themesongs that are not the title of the film. Ok a song called CR might sound cheesey, and QOS I can forgive (although its easy enough to write a song called QOS), but Spectre I can't forgive, and it's a ridiculously easy word to use for a song title. It's not even an unusual word IMO.
By far the most disappointing news regarding the new film, but I guess I can't say for sure until I hear it.
I agree. They used to insist on the Bond themes being a title theme since it would better promote the film.
Yep. They should still do this.
I can forgive TSWLM and OP as they were spread out, but almost the entire DC era is dominated by it, and I don't like that.
Never really heard Sam Smith before so I gave him a listen, and I'd heard him before without knowing it. Not impressed at all. His voice is wimpy, and his music sounds like the same old stuff as everything else.
Bands are underrepresented with bond themes.
And the song should be called Spectre, The Writing's On The Wall is an absolutely boring title. I know it's a line from GE, but it just doesn't work, and has zero character. I hate how 3/4 DC films now have themesongs that are not the title of the film. Ok a song called CR might sound cheesey, and QOS I can forgive (although its easy enough to write a song called QOS), but Spectre I can't forgive, and it's a ridiculously easy word to use for a song title. It's not even an unusual word IMO.
By far the most disappointing news regarding the new film, but I guess I can't say for sure until I hear it.
I agree. They used to insist on the Bond themes being a title theme since it would better promote the film.
Yep. They should still do this.
I can forgive TSWLM and OP as they were spread out, but almost the entire DC era is dominated by it, and I don't like that.
At least TSWLM included the title in the lyrics. OP I can understand. It is terrible that SF has the only title song on Craig's four films. Especially when two of them don't have the reasons that OHMSS, OP or CR have.
Actually, the term "The writing is on the wall" is from the Book of Daniel and usually refers to impending disaster (in the Bible it was the fall of Babylon).
I don't know if that has anything to do with Mr. Smith's song.
Never really heard Sam Smith before so I gave him a listen, and I'd heard him before without knowing it. Not impressed at all. His voice is wimpy, and his music sounds like the same old stuff as everything else.
Bands are underrepresented with bond themes.
And the song should be called Spectre, The Writing's On The Wall is an absolutely boring title. I know it's a line from GE, but it just doesn't work, and has zero character. I hate how 3/4 DC films now have themesongs that are not the title of the film. Ok a song called CR might sound cheesey, and QOS I can forgive (although its easy enough to write a song called QOS), but Spectre I can't forgive, as it's a ridiculously easy word to use for a song title. It's not even an unusual word either IMO.
By far the most disappointing news regarding the new film, but I guess I can't say for sure until I hear it.
TSWLM and OP had songs that were not named after the film. And were excellent entries in the Bond cannon. This is a superficial complaint, and is also premature since we haven't heard the song. I'm not particularly excited about Smith's selection, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I hear what he has come up with and have a chance to judge it. Simply pathetic to see all of the lamenting and moaning in this thread without anything to go on.
When the track is available for pre order on iTunes from tonight , should we be expecting an extract from the song to listen to when you normally download / pre order a song this close to release?
Normally when you tap on the song you want to download a bit of the song plays so you can hear before you download.
I'm expecting not to be able to hear an extract when the pre order is availed tonight but does anyone have any idea whether we can expect to hear something?
Usually if the release is in the same month a preview extract is there to listen to , but knowing how the bond marketing has been like so far , we won't hear anything til , most likely , a Scott Mills world exclusive drop next week perhaps?...
Any thoughts? -{
Is it definitely available for pre-order tonight? I seem to remember we got SKYFALL at 0:07 UK time.
Never really heard Sam Smith before so I gave him a listen, and I'd heard him before without knowing it. Not impressed at all. His voice is wimpy, and his music sounds like the same old stuff as everything else.
Bands are underrepresented with bond themes.
And the song should be called Spectre, The Writing's On The Wall is an absolutely boring title. I know it's a line from GE, but it just doesn't work, and has zero character. I hate how 3/4 DC films now have themesongs that are not the title of the film. Ok a song called CR might sound cheesey, and QOS I can forgive (although its easy enough to write a song called QOS), but Spectre I can't forgive, as it's a ridiculously easy word to use for a song title. It's not even an unusual word either IMO.
By far the most disappointing news regarding the new film, but I guess I can't say for sure until I hear it.
TSWLM, MR, and OP all had songs that were not named after the film. And all were excellent entries in the Bond cannon. This is a superficial complaint, and is also premature since we haven't heard the song. I'm not particularly excited about Smith's selection, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I hear what he has come up with and have a chance to judge it. Simply pathetic to see all of the lamenting and moaning in this thread without anything to go on.
MR?
Also, I clearly said, at the end of my post, that I can't truly tell until I've heard the song.
I think it's a valid complaint I made and I'm entitled to it. I don't mind a few songs not to be named after the film's title, but DC will now have 3/4, which bothers me.
Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,778MI6 Agent
I have just listened to a couple of Mr Smith's songs. - He has a good voice, and he does the whole ballad / emotive stuff well. - I think this is a case of the song being the critical element.
As QoS proved, its not just about the right artist (I have heard other stuff Jack Black and Alicia Keyes have done - they are good singers!) its also about the right song.
Some argued that Adele was not the right artist for Skyfall, - but she had the right song. That made her the right artist in the end. - Fingers crossed. I do like the title "Writings On the Wall" that's clever!
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Interesting because I didn't like Adele at all and wasn't happy when she was announced for Skyfall
How wrong I was!
+1
Same here. I wasn't a fan of Adele before "Skyfall" and it turned out beautifully. However - Sam Smith's voice is nowhere as awesome as Adele's so I wonder how his song can be potentially better then "Skyfall", which remains the only song in my life that never became boring for me.
I don't like QoS and I don't like Another Way To Die, I don't like Die Another Day and I don't like the Madonna song but they're not inter-linked.
As long as the film is excellent, which I think it will be, I'll happily overlook any disappointment about the song.
Of course, the song could be amazing and we could be worrying for nothing. We'll have to wait and see.
♪"Spectre, they're gunna get ya, Spectre..." ♪
Yeah I fear the theme song won't be integrated into the score
Don't rule it out - if Sam Smith is to be believed (after previously lying about his involvement in the recording of the song) and he did record it in January, there's been plenty of time in the interim for Newman to work in some of the phrasing to the main score, which will have been only going on since around May time really, when he'll have had some edited principal photography to work with.
If it is integrated, it would be for a few measures like it was for Skyfall since it's not Thomas Newman's theme. It would be nice if Thomas Newman wrote his own themes for the score, but he's not really a thematic composer. Even when David Arnold didn't write the main theme, like in DAD and QoS, he wrote his own themes and motifs in the score to hold it together. Though I'm bothered that the main theme wasn't written by the film's composer to be included in the score, Thomas Newman doesn't write memorable songs or themes anyway.
Yeah that's why I worry, it's my biggest fear about this movie, everything else seems to be shaping up nicely. Matt S summed it up nicely
I feel that, like Skyfall, the soundtrack will be serviceable and blend in like in Skyfall. But I don't like my Bond soundtracks to blend in. I want them to have their own identity
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kozdiuIwB08
Guessing we'll have Sam's song leaked by end of this week.
Agree. The music is integral to a Bond film, the title song needs to be included in the score. One of the best tracks from Skyfall was "Komodo Dragon" the only track that included the "Skyfall" theme.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SbsQm2T8iwY
And, couldn't agree more, always better to have elements of the title song worked into the soundtrack....
Normally when you tap on the song you want to download a bit of the song plays so you can hear before you download.
I'm expecting not to be able to hear an extract when the pre order is availed tonight but does anyone have any idea whether we can expect to hear something?
Usually if the release is in the same month a preview extract is there to listen to , but knowing how the bond marketing has been like so far , we won't hear anything til , most likely , a Scott Mills world exclusive drop next week perhaps?...
Any thoughts? -{
This.
The title Spectre would fit perfectly with Radiohead's style too.
And there hasn't been enough bands doing bond themes. 4 out of 24 is a tiny amount.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Bands are underrepresented with bond themes.
And the song should be called Spectre, The Writing's On The Wall is an absolutely boring title. I know it's a line from GE, but it just doesn't work, and has zero character. I hate how 3/4 DC films now have themesongs that are not the title of the film. Ok a song called CR might sound cheesey, and QOS I can forgive (although its easy enough to write a song called QOS), but Spectre I can't forgive, as it's a ridiculously easy word to use for a song title. It's not even an unusual word either IMO.
By far the most disappointing news regarding the new film, but I guess I can't say for sure until I hear it.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
I agree. They used to insist on the Bond themes being a title theme since it would better promote the film.
Yep. They should still do this.
I can forgive TSWLM and OP as they were spread out, but almost the entire DC era is dominated by it, and I don't like that.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
At least TSWLM included the title in the lyrics. OP I can understand. It is terrible that SF has the only title song on Craig's four films. Especially when two of them don't have the reasons that OHMSS, OP or CR have.
I don't know if that has anything to do with Mr. Smith's song.
Glad its not only me ,I cant stand him either ,and I see Welshie is of the same opinon too, 8-)
TSWLM and OP had songs that were not named after the film. And were excellent entries in the Bond cannon. This is a superficial complaint, and is also premature since we haven't heard the song. I'm not particularly excited about Smith's selection, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I hear what he has come up with and have a chance to judge it. Simply pathetic to see all of the lamenting and moaning in this thread without anything to go on.
Is it definitely available for pre-order tonight? I seem to remember we got SKYFALL at 0:07 UK time.
Great little interview from BBC News here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdb6Q2ZlG54
MR?
Also, I clearly said, at the end of my post, that I can't truly tell until I've heard the song.
I think it's a valid complaint I made and I'm entitled to it. I don't mind a few songs not to be named after the film's title, but DC will now have 3/4, which bothers me.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
As QoS proved, its not just about the right artist (I have heard other stuff Jack Black and Alicia Keyes have done - they are good singers!) its also about the right song.
Some argued that Adele was not the right artist for Skyfall, - but she had the right song. That made her the right artist in the end. - Fingers crossed. I do like the title "Writings On the Wall" that's clever!