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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,679MI6 Agent

    Makes the Disco Volante look like a dinghy. 😃

  • MI6_HeadquartersMI6_Headquarters Posts: 37MI6 Agent

    What I want for the next era:


    1. Realistic Action scenes

    2. Have Bond be a real spy again doing spy things.

    3. Standalone adventures (I'm fine with references and callbacks) but a continuation? No, if a film ends on a cliffhanger (like in OHMSS), then fine do it, it deserves a sequel right away.

    4. Chemistry between Bond and Bond Girl

    5. Age appropriate Bond Girl as the Bond actor ages.

    6. Let's take a rest from French actresses, all of the Bond Girls in the Craig Era have been French actresses. It's time for a different nationality for a change.

    7. A Bond Girl with a personality (well a Bond Girl far from Madeleine, I don't want to see another Madeleine Swann again).

    8. No Bond falling in love, Bond for me only fell in love once, and that's Tracy, no need to copy or imitate it, I want Tracy to be Bond's only love.

    9. A tough, competent Bond Girl

    10. A complex, realistic villain (if they'd humanized Bond, then why not the villain, make him a little sympathetic, also I want a Main Bond Villain who can physically fight Bond and get bloodied, I'm tired of henchmen doing it then the villain was just sitting only to be effortlessly killed by Bond in the last minute).

    11. Colorful, and bright cinematography

    12. Great story

    13. Using some unused Fleming scenes

    14. I'm fine for a bit fun, but not parody, one liners or jokes is alright with me.

    15. Stop with CGIs

    16. Stop following the trends, have Bond be the trendsetter again

    17. Beautiful locations (No Italy)

    18. I have no problem with Bond going rogue, as long as it's handled properly, and not occuring on every film, have him do it rarely on few occasions and reasonable, like Bond in OHMSS, LTK, GE and DAD, Craig's Bond went rogue but the majority of them aren't reasonable.

    19. Bring back the sophistication and class

    Ranking of Ian Fleming Novels/Books

    1. Moonraker 2. Casino Royale 3. From Russia With Love 4. Thunderball 5. You Only Live Twice 6. Dr. No 7. Diamonds Are Forever 8. Goldfinger 9. Live And Let Die 10. On Her Majesty's Secret Service 11. The Spy Who Loved Me 12. The Man With The Golden Gun

    Ranking the Short Stories:

    1. The Living Daylights 2. From A View To A Kill 3. For Your Eyes Only 4. The Hildebrand Rarity 5. Risico 6. Quantum Of Solace 7. Octopussy

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent
    edited June 8

    I don't think quitting CGI completely is an option these days. In my opinion CGI should support the scene (hide safety ropes and cranes etc.), but not BE the scene.

  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 2,636MI6 Agent
    edited June 9

    I don't think too many will disagree with you on those points. In response, I would add;

    1. Realistic Action scenes

    I think there needs to be a mixture of both. I wouldn't want Bond to be too gritty and realistic, but again, not too fanciful (Gondola - MR, Motorbike to Plane - GE, Tsunami Surfing - DAD, for example).

    2. Have Bond be a real spy again doing spy things.

    Agree. I prefer Bond being a Spy than an Assassin.

    3. Standalone adventures (I'm fine with references and callbacks) but a continuation? No, if a film ends on a cliffhanger (like in OHMSS), then fine do it, it deserves a sequel right away.

    Agree. Would much prefer standalone adventures.

    4. Chemistry between Bond and Bond Girl

    Very important. When it's lacking it takes one out of the movie somewhat.

    5. Age appropriate Bond Girl as the Bond actor ages.

    Definitely. Bond with a younger woman is fine but when they could be his daughter, it's pushing it.

    6. Let's take a rest from French actresses, all of the Bond Girls in the Craig Era have been French actresses. It's time for a different nationality for a change.

    Agree. Although only Eva Green and Lea Seydoux were French.

    7. A Bond Girl with a personality (well a Bond Girl far from Madeleine, I don't want to see another Madeleine Swann again).

    Agree. I'm not a fan of Lea Seydoux/Madeleine Swann, I think she had personality, albeit a bit flat and moody, but given her upbringing it's hardly surprising!

    8. No Bond falling in love, Bond for me only fell in love once, and that's Tracy, no need to copy or imitate it, I want Tracy to be Bond's only love.

    Agree. I don't want Bond falling in love again. Vesper and Tracey were both loves of his life. The producers/DC imitating and even trying to surpass those relationships, wasn't necessary and the chemistry between JB/MS wasn't anywhere near, IMO.

    9. A tough, competent Bond Girl

    Not sure on this one. Wai Lin and Camille were great but Jinx. No. Somewhere in between works for me. Could be old fashioned but I'm not keen on Bond and Bond Girl being equal.

    10. A complex, realistic villain (if they'd humanized Bond, then why not the villain, make him a little sympathetic, also I want a Main Bond Villain who can physically fight Bond and get bloodied, I'm tired of henchmen doing it then the villain was just sitting only to be effortlessly killed by Bond in the last minute).

    Interesting thought. Give the villain more depth, but again not too heavy a back story. Bond Villains that can physically hold their own in a fight have been decent in the past e.g. AT in GE, FS in LTK.

    11. Colorful, and bright cinematography

    Yes.

    12. Great story

    Yes.

    13. Using some unused Fleming scenes

    Yes.

    14. I'm fine for a bit fun, but not parody, one liners or jokes is alright with me.

    Yes.

    15. Stop with CGIs

    Difficult to avoid in this day and age, I'm afraid. Just needs to be done as well as possible. One thing I'm not keen on is digitising an actor's face over the stunt person.

    16. Stop following the trends, have Bond be the trendsetter again

    Yes.

    17. Beautiful locations (No Italy)

    Goes without saying. Beautiful locations are a must. I've loved every one of the Italy locations, but agree, probably time to go elsewhere.

    18. I have no problem with Bond going rogue, as long as it's handled properly, and not occurring on every film, have him do it rarely on few occasions and reasonable, like Bond in OHMSS, LTK, GE and DAD, Craig's Bond went rogue but the majority of them aren't reasonable.

    Need to give Rogue Bond a rest for some time now IMO.

    19. Bring back the sophistication and class

    Yes. DC was great, I liked him, but for me never had quite the same sophistication and class of the other Bond's. But to be fair, that probably aided things. He brought something a bit different and hard edged and dark to the role, more in-line with modern times and it was these aspects and his interpretation which were incredibly popular to many Bond fans and the average movie goer. Again, there needs to be a happy medium. Just as Fleming wrote the character.

    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 2,636MI6 Agent

    I don't think too many will disagree with you on those points. In response, I would add;

    1. Realistic Action scenes

    I think there needs to be a mixture of both. I wouldn't want Bond to be too gritty and realistic, but again, not too fanciful (Gondola - MR, Motorbike to Plane - GE, Tsunami Surfing - DAD, for example).

    2. Have Bond be a real spy again doing spy things.

    Agree. I prefer Bond being more Spy than Assassin.

    3. Standalone adventures (I'm fine with references and callbacks) but a continuation? No, if a film ends on a cliffhanger (like in OHMSS), then fine do it, it deserves a sequel right away.

    Agree. Would much prefer standalone adventures.

    4. Chemistry between Bond and Bond Girl

    Very important. When it's lacking it takes one out of the movie somewhat.

    5. Age appropriate Bond Girl as the Bond actor ages.

    Definitely. Bond with a younger woman is fine but when they could be his daughter, it's pushing it!

    6. Let's take a rest from French actresses, all of the Bond Girls in the Craig Era have been French actresses. It's time for a different nationality for a change.

    Agree. Although only Eva Green and Lea Seydoux were French.

    7. A Bond Girl with a personality (well a Bond Girl far from Madeleine, I don't want to see another Madeleine Swann again).

    Agree. I'm not a fan of Lea Seydoux/Madeleine Swann, I think she had personality, albeit a bit flat and moody, but given her upbringing it's hardly surprising!

    8. No Bond falling in love, Bond for me only fell in love once, and that's Tracy, no need to copy or imitate it, I want Tracy to be Bond's only love.

    Agree. I don't want Bond falling in love again. Vesper and Tracey were both loves of his life. The producers/DC imitating and even trying to surpass those relationships, wasn't necessary and the chemistry between JB/MS wasn't anywhere near, IMO.

    9. A tough, competent Bond Girl

    Not sure on this one. Wai Lin and Camille were great but Jinx, no. Somewhere in between works for me. Could be old fashioned but I'm not keen on Bond and Bond Girl being equal.

    10. A complex, realistic villain (if they'd humanized Bond, then why not the villain, make him a little sympathetic, also I want a Main Bond Villain who can physically fight Bond and get bloodied, I'm tired of henchmen doing it then the villain was just sitting only to be effortlessly killed by Bond in the last minute).

    Interesting thought. Give the villain more depth, but again not too heavy a back story. Bond Villains that can physically hold their own in a fight have been decent in the past e.g. AT in GE, FS in LTK.

    11. Colorful, and bright cinematography

    Yes.

    12. Great story

    Yes.

    13. Using some unused Fleming scenes

    Yes.

    14. I'm fine for a bit fun, but not parody, one liners or jokes is alright with me.

    Yes.

    15. Stop with CGIs

    Difficult to avoid in this day and age, I'm afraid. Just needs to be done as well as possible. One thing I'm not keen on is digitising an actor's face over the stunt person.

    16. Stop following the trends, have Bond be the trendsetter again

    Yes.

    17. Beautiful locations (No Italy)

    Goes without saying. Beautiful locations are a must. I've loved every one of the Italy locations, but agree, probably time to go elsewhere.

    18. I have no problem with Bond going rogue, as long as it's handled properly, and not occurring on every film, have him do it rarely on few occasions and reasonable, like Bond in OHMSS, LTK, GE and DAD, Craig's Bond went rogue but the majority of them aren't reasonable.

    Need to give Rogue Bond a rest for some time now IMO.

    19. Bring back the sophistication and class

    Yes. DC was great, I liked him, but for me never had quite the class and sophistication of the other Bond's. But to be fair, he brought something a bit different and hard edged and darker to the role, more in-line with modern times and it was these aspects and his interpretation which were incredibly popular to many Bond fans and the average movie goer. Again, there needs to be a happy medium. Just as Fleming wrote the character.

    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • OrnithologistOrnithologist BerlinPosts: 555MI6 Agent
    edited June 9

    Very good points. Some more commentary on both your assessments:

    5. Age appropriate Bond Girl as the Bond actor ages.

    Definitely. Bond with a younger woman is fine but when they could be his daughter, it's pushing it!

    Not sure I agree tbh, it's not like relationships like this don't exist in real life. 48 year old Bond (not in his first movie hopefully!) with a 30 year old Bond girl would technically be "could be his daughter" territorry but I wouldn't see a problem with that. Usually these are short term affairs too, it's not like Bond would ever get married or have children........ 🤭

    6. Let's take a rest from French actresses, all of the Bond Girls in the Craig Era have been French actresses. It's time for a different nationality for a change.

    Agree. Although only Eva Green and Lea Seydoux were French.

    And Bérénice Marlohe. Also, I used to think Eva Green was English due to her name and the character she portrays. Does she have a noticeable accent for English native speakers?

    17. Beautiful locations (No Italy)

    This is an oxymoron if I have ever seen one!

    "I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
    "- That is something to be afraid of."
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 2,636MI6 Agent
    edited June 9

    "And Bérénice Marlohe. Also, I used to think Eva Green was English due to her name and the character she portrays. Does she have a noticeable accent for English native speakers?"

    Of course, yes. Bérénice Marlohe is French.

    Eva Green has a slight French accent and she was playing it English. Personally, I love the way she speaks in that mixed accent of hers.

    Lea Seydoux has a French accent.

    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • MI6_HeadquartersMI6_Headquarters Posts: 37MI6 Agent
    edited June 9

    One of many aspects I disliked A View To A Kill was the age gap, Tanya Roberts looked young enough to be Moore's daughter and seeing them having sex in the shower was a bit uncomfortable to watch.

    Similar to Seydoux and Craig when they also have sex in the train in SPECTRE, and also when they make love again in NTTD in the Matera Hotel, the age gap was really obvious.

    That's why I'm happy when Moore's Bond rejected Bibi Dahl, because it would looked uncomfortable.

    That's why I really liked Monica Bellucci to be Craig's main bond girl instead of Lea, because she's more age appropriate for him, similar to how Octopussy (Maud Adams) fits Moore's Bond, when they make love it's not uncomfortable to watch.

    All of Craig Bond Girl actresses have been French:

    1. Eva Green

    2. Olga Kurylenko (Half French)

    3. Bérénice Marlohe

    4. Lea Seydoux

    Ranking of Ian Fleming Novels/Books

    1. Moonraker 2. Casino Royale 3. From Russia With Love 4. Thunderball 5. You Only Live Twice 6. Dr. No 7. Diamonds Are Forever 8. Goldfinger 9. Live And Let Die 10. On Her Majesty's Secret Service 11. The Spy Who Loved Me 12. The Man With The Golden Gun

    Ranking the Short Stories:

    1. The Living Daylights 2. From A View To A Kill 3. For Your Eyes Only 4. The Hildebrand Rarity 5. Risico 6. Quantum Of Solace 7. Octopussy

  • OrnithologistOrnithologist BerlinPosts: 555MI6 Agent

    Oh yes, I wouldn't argue in favor of a huge age cap of course. What I'm saying is the way their roles are written and the quality of the acting (both were terrible for Madeleine Swann!) should be more important than being the same age.

    At least there were some non-french secondary Bond girls (Caterina Murino, Gemma Arterton) and wasn't Judy Dench actually the main one in Skyfall? 😅

    "I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
    "- That is something to be afraid of."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    I don't get very worked up about age differences. There are limits obviously, both legal and cultural, but people often take it too seriously. Women in their early twenties have relationships with partners in their forties in real life. I don't think it was really problematic in Craig's tenure.

  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,551MI6 Agent

    I agree with so many points on here that it's almost scary!

    Every Bond film could be set/filmed in Italy and I'd be happy, but yes, I'd like to see some new locations. And I do mean "new", and preferably not driven by tax breaks.

    I don't really mind what nationality female Bond characters/actors are just so long as they are age-appropriate (if in a relationship), exciting, and good characters. More Paloma and less Madelaine.

    Definitely return to sophistication and class for Bond: less blunt instrument and more gentleman spy...with enough physical presence to be able to tackle any challenge (and I'm quite happy for him to be able to fly a helicopter, pilot a submarine, or disarm a nuclear weapon...and still be able to correctly order wine and use cutlery).

    Finally, and this may just be burnout from the last few, I don't want any more films over two hours. Make them shorter and sharper. Make me leave the cinema with a spring in my step and eager for the next one...which will hopefully only be two years away.

  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 832MI6 Agent

    Did a brief Top10-wishlist for Bond26 (and shamelessly promoting my IG-account ;) )

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CfFAwjgDSPl/

    The name is Walker by the way.

    IG: @thebondarchives
    Check it out, you won’t be disappointed :)
  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 2,072MI6 Agent

    This us on You Tube. It's a blend of all kinds of movies but I like the ideas it suggests of an internal breakdown of the UK espionage systems and a reintroduction if OO7 without reference to previous Craig-Bond exploits. The overarching terror plot is one we've seen before, but if it is handled with originality I'd be happy with a return. Best if all, while the clip suggests a "back from exile" thread, this looks like a mission from the top and Bond just going for it. A fun 3 minutes regardless.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    It's an above-average fan trailer. I liked it.

  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 33,458Chief of Staff

    Not bad at all. I'd watch that.

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