The Future of Bond

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  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,652MI6 Agent
    in the 1970s the older films were usually broadcast at least one per month, fairly predictably
    I think it was ABC Sunday nights?
    superado wrote:
    They weren't shown that frequently. Since we're both operating from memory, to me it seemed more like a frequency of one Bond movie a year and whenever there was a broadcast, it was a big deal especially because home video had not yet existed.
    it was definitely more than one a year, since I managed to see them all for the first time between The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker, most of them more than once. That was nine films, so even if I only caught them once, that'd be what? one every three months on average.
    Casino Royale I had to stay up long after midnight to see

    this is a digression, though, cuz we're just talking about the same film series on tv, not a separate original show. Sorry to confuse. When I was a lad, I had to get my tv spy fix from reruns of Get Smart and Mission Impossible. I never saw those great ITV shows (Avengers, Saint, Prisoner) until we got cable.

    Maybe in certain years there were more than one Bond movie broadcasted by ABC within a year, like that period you mentioned between TSWLM and MR. However, that frequency certainly did not happen every year, most especially in the earlier years when ABC obtained sole tv broadcasting rights of the Bond movies from the early 70s to the early 90s...at least that was the case in the US. Bond movies were promoted like rare, special broadcasting events. I do remember that during the 1978 holiday season when Superman the Movie was released, they showed a lot of Bond movies that I suspect was broadcasting under the ABC late night movies.
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    Gotta say, I am getting a bit nervous with the rumours of the last few weeks.

    - EON selling the rights to either Amazon or Apple or MGM.
    - Bond to become married in the new movie...
    - spin off TV series

    The getting married part I don't take too serious, but that EON will sell the rights is a bit more disturbing. What will for example Apple or Amazon do with Bond? Will they be able to maintain the quality and innovation that is (usually) the case with Bond movies?

    What I always loved about EON, is that they had a sense of tradition with Bond movies: you always saw the same faces in the cast but also in the crew: the same writers, editors, production designers....like a family of some sorts, which enhanced the quality of the movies I believe.

    Of course I am not bind and also for EON, Bond is big business, just like Bond will be big business for the Apple/Amazon. But will they be able to keep the standards or will it become even more a commercial product, a 2, 5 hour long commercial for goods? And for how long will they keep the rights? Or will Bond be shopped around to other buyers every 5 years or so, again jeopardizing the standard quality.

    In a perfect world, I would like to see a British company take over the Bond rights, maybe a guy like Branson. And make Bond again a real British secret service agent. So no Tom Ford suits, but Anthony Sinclair suits or another British designer. No more BMW's or Ford's but Aston Martin only. Etcetera.

    I also hope that a potential buyer will have to obey to a few 'ground rules' when it comes to the movies:

    - only a British actor to portray JB
    - No spin offs of characters. So no Felix Leiter show on netflix for example.
    - No remakes of classics

    etcetera.
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,990Quartermasters
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    Gotta say, I am getting a bit nervous with the rumours of the last few weeks.

    - EON selling the rights to either Amazon or Apple or MGM.
    - Bond to become married in the new movie...
    - spin off TV series

    The getting married part I don't take too serious, but that EON will sell the rights is a bit more disturbing. What will for example Apple or Amazon do with Bond? Will they be able to maintain the quality and innovation that is (usually) the case with Bond movies?

    What I always loved about EON, is that they had a sense of tradition with Bond movies: you always saw the same faces in the cast but also in the crew: the same writers, editors, production designers....like a family of some sorts, which enhanced the quality of the movies I believe.

    Of course I am not bind and also for EON, Bond is big business, just like Bond will be big business for the Apple/Amazon. But will they be able to keep the standards or will it become even more a commercial product, a 2, 5 hour long commercial for goods? And for how long will they keep the rights? Or will Bond be shopped around to other buyers every 5 years or so, again jeopardizing the standard quality.

    In a perfect world, I would like to see a British company take over the Bond rights, maybe a guy like Branson. And make Bond again a real British secret service agent. So no Tom Ford suits, but Anthony Sinclair suits or another British designer. No more BMW's or Ford's but Aston Martin only. Etcetera.

    I also hope that a potential buyer will have to obey to a few 'ground rules' when it comes to the movies:

    - only a British actor to portray JB
    - No spin offs of characters. So no Felix Leiter show on netflix for example.
    - No remakes of classics

    etcetera.

    I can certainly agree with your sentiments. But if Eon does sell, literally anything can happen. It's both exciting and unnerving...and it's hard to imagine the new owner shying away from alternate revenue streams.
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  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    Yep, although maybe a new owner can be refreshing in some sort of way. EON naturally did a fantastic job, but they also have made their mistakes in dealing with Bond. Although Bond movies are complex, because there are so many fans with different preferences. There are people that mainly love the older Fleming style stories (myself included) and then there are the fans of the laid back, over the top Roger Moore, DAD style of movies. There are no 2 fans that rank the 24 Bond movies the same way it seems.

    1 thing that did jump to mind and is something I would perhaps like to see, is a mini series where the original Fleming books come to live. For example a version of Moonraker set in the 50's when it was written, would be great to watch, if the production values are good that is. It is probably the only exception I can think of now.
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,945MI6 Agent
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    1 thing that did jump to mind and is something I would perhaps like to see, is a mini series where the original Fleming books come to live. For example a version of Moonraker set in the 50's when it was written, would be great to watch, if the production values are good that is. It is probably the only exception I can think of now.
    me too, and Fleming's Moonraker is definitely meant to be a period piece.
    Theres a lot of TV shows now with production values as big as the movies, Dr Who for example.
    And theres period shows that every week faithfully replicate older times with the cars and the costumes and the storefronts. One in Canada is Murdoch Mysteries, set at the turn of the last century. It's cool to stumble across a location set when they're setting up to film in your neighbourhood, and there's a whole niche industry supplying the period props and costumes. I'm sure it was the same for Downton Abbey for example, and all the rest of those Masterpiece Theatre type productions. Should not be a problem to recreate 1950s Britain.
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Of the Fifties Bond novels we've already had more or less faithful adaptions of CR, FRWL, DN, and GF. A faithful adaption of LALD might be problematic. MR would be great and DAF might be interesting as might TSWLM (1962). The last would cause Fleming to roll over in his grave.

    Some of the short stories could be interesting as well.

    I could see a series of ninety-minute shows set in the Fifties-early Sixties, maybe 6 or so in all, perhaps on premium cable.
  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    I would even like a TV season of just Moonraker. I would happily watch an hour episode of just watching Bond and M order and having dinner in Blades. Such a great story.
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    About Apple and Bond, I remember in a WWDC where on the Apple TV the woman presenting searched for the James Bond films and then specifically, the early Connery films.
    Hope this wasn't meant to be foreshadowing.
    Also, I remember a rumour back in 2012 that were Bond were to wear a smart-watch, he would wear an Apple Watch instead of a Sony Smartwatch.
    a reasonable rate of return
  • 007Downunder007Downunder Hobart, Australia Posts: 373MI6 Agent
    I've been watching new season of Vikings I think Jonathan Rhys Myers has potential as next Bond
    Anthony
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,544MI6 Agent
    It looks like the rumours of EON selling off the Bond franchise are just that, rumours. An interview with Babs Broccoli published today with The Hollywood Reporter says: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/awards-chatter-podcast-barbara-broccoli-film-stars-dont-die-liverpool-1069057
    For now, though, she'll be turning her attention back to Bond, the films of which she plans to oversee for as long as she can, and then pass along to the next generation of Broccolis. "It's a family business," she emphasizes. "I mean, it'd be nice to think that the family will continue with it. But, you know, again, Bond belongs to everybody. So we'll just see. He'll survive, whatever happens."
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,585Chief of Staff
    Someone wrote:
    It looks like the rumours of EON selling off the Bond franchise are just that, rumours. An interview with Babs Broccoli published today with The Hollywood Reporter says: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/awards-chatter-podcast-barbara-broccoli-film-stars-dont-die-liverpool-1069057
    For now, though, she'll be turning her attention back to Bond, the films of which she plans to oversee for as long as she can, and then pass along to the next generation of Broccolis. "It's a family business," she emphasizes. "I mean, it'd be nice to think that the family will continue with it. But, you know, again, Bond belongs to everybody. So we'll just see. He'll survive, whatever happens."

    Hardly proof positive when you read the last two sentences though :))
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,693MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    It looks like the rumours of EON selling off the Bond franchise are just that, rumours. An interview with Babs Broccoli published today with The Hollywood Reporter says: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/awards-chatter-podcast-barbara-broccoli-film-stars-dont-die-liverpool-1069057
    For now, though, she'll be turning her attention back to Bond, the films of which she plans to oversee for as long as she can, and then pass along to the next generation of Broccolis. "It's a family business," she emphasizes. "I mean, it'd be nice to think that the family will continue with it. But, you know, again, Bond belongs to everybody. So we'll just see. He'll survive, whatever happens."

    Hardly proof positive when you read the last two sentences though :))

    One could say she's leaving herself a bit of elbow room, too! :D
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
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