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With Craig’s Bond, they’ve always been searching for that balance between the film Bond, the literary Bond, and the modern spy genre. I think they got it most right on the very first try, and less so after, with Spectre being the worst. Craig trying to go full-film Bond was the most strained portrayal in the entire series. The guy in Casino Royale was the James Bond of the books transported to 2006.

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Miles Messervy wrote:

With Craig’s Bond, they’ve always been searching for that balance between the film Bond, the literary Bond, and the modern spy genre. I think they got it most right on the very first try, and less so after, with Spectre being the worst. Craig trying to go full-film Bond was the most strained portrayal in the entire series. The guy in Casino Royale was the James Bond of the books transported to 2006.

I think in that regard, the guy in Skyfall was a decent, heretofore unseen approximation of Fleming's Bond from the last couple books.

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Number24 wrote:

It's true that Craig's Bond suffers more than..... Moore.... and the other Bond's. But it's a myth, or at least a exageration, that Craig's Bond never enjoys himself. I'd say he enjoys life more than Dalton's Bond.
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It was a flaw with TD as well, but tempered by small details, such as knowing a decent reatauant in Karachi and knowing that Stradavarious violins all have names  and the Afghan word for beautiful etc. All smacked of some kind of exterior life. While not fun per se at least suggested something outside of grim determination and suffering. Another example being the Hotel manager knowing of Bond's 'usual requirements.

Danny and Babs sitting in a Tree...

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Number24 wrote:

It's true that Craig's Bond suffers more than..... Moore.... and the other Bond's. But it's a myth, or at least a exageration, that Craig's Bond never enjoys himself. I'd say he enjoys life more than Dalton's Bond.
(this message will self-destruct in five minutes so Higgins never sees it)

It was a flaw with TD as well, but tempered by small details, such as knowing a decent reatauant in Karachi and knowing that Stradavarious violins all have names  and the Afghan word for beautiful etc. All smacked of some kind of exterior life. While not fun per se at least suggested something outside of grim determination and suffering. Another example being the Hotel manager knowing of Bond's 'usual requirements.

Danny and Babs sitting in a Tree...

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walther p99 wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:
MrZareba wrote:

Apple feels too mainstream for James...

precisely, Bond is a snob and doesn't buy that massmarket stuff.
Reminds me of Bond drinking Heinekin when there's so many good beers available, as someone who talks knowledgably about wine vintages would certainly be aware. Bond probably knows personally the Trappist monks who brew the beer he drinks, and has it custom-made in small batches just for him.

Exactly ajb007/lol I dont really consider Craig's Bond much of a connoisseur nor a snob. In fact he indulges in many mass marketed consumer products beyond Sony. If anything Craig's Bond is the most "mainstream" of all the Bonds. He drinks Heineken, wears J.Crew, drove a Ford Fusion, etc.

Well, that's a good point... So what I probably meant was "Bond should not be using Apple products, nor other mainstream crap"  ajb007/lol

As for Bond's first choice - I think he would not pick Apple. Craig's Bond was portrayed as a geek (at least in CR), able to hack passwords and stuff, which is probably what we would expect from a nowadays spy (that thing actually pissed me off in Skyfall where he's more of a technological idiot next to Q). I think he would research and buy the best thing on the market, which currently is the S9+ I guess. Apple is not that safe because "fappening" proved it.

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One would think that the Service would supply him with whatever cutting edge tech he would want or need....they certainly go off the deep end when it comes to cars. It's the other stuff, the food, alcohol, etc. I don't really know if that is a part of Craig's Bond as the films don't show much of it...except he does love his old Aston DB's; which in my world is the epitome of great taste. ajb007/martini

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MrZareba wrote:
walther p99 wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

precisely, Bond is a snob and doesn't buy that massmarket stuff.
Reminds me of Bond drinking Heinekin when there's so many good beers available, as someone who talks knowledgably about wine vintages would certainly be aware. Bond probably knows personally the Trappist monks who brew the beer he drinks, and has it custom-made in small batches just for him.

Exactly ajb007/lol I dont really consider Craig's Bond much of a connoisseur nor a snob. In fact he indulges in many mass marketed consumer products beyond Sony. If anything Craig's Bond is the most "mainstream" of all the Bonds. He drinks Heineken, wears J.Crew, drove a Ford Fusion, etc.

Well, that's a good point... So what I probably meant was "Bond should not be using Apple products, nor other mainstream crap"  ajb007/lol

As for Bond's first choice - I think he would not pick Apple. Craig's Bond was portrayed as a geek (at least in CR), able to hack passwords and stuff, which is probably what we would expect from a nowadays spy (that thing actually pissed me off in Skyfall where he's more of a technological idiot next to Q). I think he would research and buy the best thing on the market, which currently is the S9+ I guess. Apple is not that safe because "fappening" proved it.

I guess Apple is too mainstream to be “cool”, but, from QoS onward my iPhone has been far more capable and much cooler than whatever Sony garbage Bond has been using. Just saying.  ajb007/shifty

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Miles Messervy wrote:
MrZareba wrote:
walther p99 wrote:

Exactly ajb007/lol I dont really consider Craig's Bond much of a connoisseur nor a snob. In fact he indulges in many mass marketed consumer products beyond Sony. If anything Craig's Bond is the most "mainstream" of all the Bonds. He drinks Heineken, wears J.Crew, drove a Ford Fusion, etc.

Well, that's a good point... So what I probably meant was "Bond should not be using Apple products, nor other mainstream crap"  ajb007/lol

As for Bond's first choice - I think he would not pick Apple. Craig's Bond was portrayed as a geek (at least in CR), able to hack passwords and stuff, which is probably what we would expect from a nowadays spy (that thing actually pissed me off in Skyfall where he's more of a technological idiot next to Q). I think he would research and buy the best thing on the market, which currently is the S9+ I guess. Apple is not that safe because "fappening" proved it.

I guess Apple is too mainstream to be “cool”, but, from QoS onward my iPhone has been far more capable and much cooler than whatever Sony garbage Bond has been using. Just saying.  ajb007/shifty

A. calculator is more capable than a Xperia smartphone to be honest, Sony ericssons were great but Sony ruined the company and it will tank just like VAIO

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MrZareba wrote:

As for Bond's first choice - I think he would not pick Apple. Craig's Bond was portrayed as a geek (at least in CR), able to hack passwords and stuff, which is probably what we would expect from a nowadays spy (that thing actually pissed me off in Skyfall where he's more of a technological idiot next to Q). I think he would research and buy the best thing on the market, which currently is the S9+ I guess. Apple is not that safe because "fappening" proved it.

I'm not sure that Bond is a Geek, which according to Wikipedia means: "... a slang term originally used to describe eccentric or non-mainstream people; in current use, the word typically connotes an expert or enthusiast or a person obsessed with a hobby or intellectual pursuit, with a general pejorative meaning of a "peculiar person, especially one who is perceived to be overly intellectual, unfashionable, boring, or socially awkward".[1]

Bond is able to hack passwords in CR because of his training and devices provided to him by MI6, but I don't think he's obsessed by even all that interested in technology per se... Cars, boats and other "moving vehicles" excepted  ajb007/bond I just can't see either Fleming's Bond or Craig's portrayal getting worked up over a phone or a hack.

"How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."

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There's a new social media leak  ajb007/biggrin

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1783/29382096738_db91be0b41_o.jpg

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Dennis Gassner out?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlFcFt0l__U/

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If this is true Mark Tildesley is the first of Boyle's regular crew (If you could call it that) to work on Bond25. Other than Hodges, of course.

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Neal confirmed it at the event.

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According to Club James Bond France, Bond25 art director Neal Callow said at the 007 Elements opening that the Bond girl role in Bond25 would fit Rachel Weisz perfectly.
http://jamesbond007.net/2018/olivier-sc … e-bond-25/

Rachel is heavily pregnant right now. Her pregnancy was revealed back in April, so she could be a proud new mum in August or September. I guess she might be in Bond25, if like Lea Seydoux she doesn't start filming until well into 2019, but I wonder if Neal Callow is actually hinting that Bond is married in Bond25?

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The Mantis wrote:

Neal confirmed it at the event.

That's a shame, Gassner did really great work on Skyfall and Blade Runner 2049.

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Vic Armstrong out, Olivier Schneider in as Stunt Coordinator...

https://mobile.twitter.com/bond25film/s … 57026?s=21

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Arbogast777 wrote:

Vic Armstrong out, Olivier Schneider in as Stunt Coordinator...

https://mobile.twitter.com/bond25film/s … 57026?s=21

If accurate, it should not be a problem. Schneider has an impressive resume as a martial artist, stuntman, and fight choreographer and has recently done some directing. Armstrong and Powell are great but maybe some new blood will be good. That being said, Schneider is no stranger to Bond having been the fight coordinator/choreographer on SPECTRE and responsible for the fight scene on the train...a highlight of the film IMO. More reason to bring back Mr. Hinx (but leave Blofeld in jail ajb007/biggrin ).

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https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/article … l?id=04406

Mi6-HQ is reporting the casting call for villains

Spoiler from Russia and a Maori henchman
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If we can't discuss this type of news openly here we should start a new thread for that purpose.

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Bond special effects chief Chris Corbould confirmed for Bond25
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment … niel-Craig

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Number24 wrote:

If we can't discuss this type of news openly here we should start a new thread for that purpose.

Put spoiler markings as a courtesy. Someone else might complain if I didn't:-)

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A small point, but I thought an interesting one, on MI6-hq.co.uk's story about the Bond25 art director
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/article … p;id=04408
it says: "Pre-production has started at Pinewood Studios in England."

It was supposed to be March and then I think it all went silent on this topic and then Boyle was announced and I don't recall any reference to pre-production since. So, it's nice to have that confirmation, but you'd think it would have had to have started by now for a December shoot and "five to six months" shooting schedule that was revealed with the casting call. Earlier than normal trailer maybe?

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What are your thoughts about Chris Corbould's comments about Bond 25?

He said: "[It’s] very exciting. I’m not going to talk about it, but I can’t remember being so excited about going on to a Bond. It’s going to be very, very special.”

He was also asked at a roundtable interview if there would be a similar focus on realism with Bond 25.
He added: “I wouldn’t be doing it otherwise. Think the Olympics.”

The "very special" line couold of cource be the usual hypeing of the next movie, but it could also mean something.
But what about the Olympics comment? I agree with Jamesbondradio that the only really special thing about the Bond segment at the Olympics ceremony was the royal connection. So will there be some royal connection to Bond25? (perhaps a Casino?  ajb007/lol  )

I can't imagine anyone playing a member of the royal family in a Bond movie, and them playing themselves is even more riddiculus.
Having a plot revolving around the royal family is far too old fashioned. Perhaps Bond stops an attack on the Buckingham or Windsor Palace in the PTS? Perhaps as a start of a terror campaign too free Blofeld?

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Bond has a fling with Megan and Harry orders a kill order on Bond? ajb007/lol

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I forgot there is an actresses in the British royal family now.
The campaign for Meghan Markle as Bond girl starts here!  ajb007/lol