We'll see. I am told by a reliable source that Bonds personal arm will be addressed in some way in QOS and that we will have a gun-fan-wanky moment.
What I can confirm at the moment is that there are stunt and live PPK's present during filming along with a black IWB holster.
Great news all round :007)
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But are you shure that is not a ppk/s beacuse it´s a knewer gun, if I had understand it right?
The PPK/S is not a newer gun. The PPK/S is just a PPK slide on a PP frame. This was done for the US market who could not import a gun as small as a PPK. Taken as that, the PPK/S is as old as both the PPK or PP.
The PPS is a state of the art firearm made for people who are in Bonds job and need to carry a pistol well concealed. The P99-C is a great gun too but is slightly wider and therefore harder to conceal. IT's a trade off between concealment and number of rounds. Bond can easily overcome this by carrying more mags which would be far easier to hide if they were for the PPS over the double stacked P99 or P99-C.
I thought it was ugly at first, but the design does grow on you. I really like it now.
We'll see. I am told by a reliable source that Bonds personal arm will be addressed in some way in QOS and that we will have a gun-fan-wanky moment.
I could see M taking his P99 away and giving him a smaller arm to remind him that it's for "personal defense", not shooting everyone who gives him a dirty look.
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,631Chief of Staff
We'll see. I am told by a reliable source that Bonds personal arm will be addressed in some way in QOS and that we will have a gun-fan-wanky moment.
I could see M taking his P99 away and giving him a smaller arm to remind him that it's for "personal defense", not shooting everyone who gives him a dirty look.
I really hope it's The Armourer that gives Bond his sidearm and not M.
I think it would be nice to, finally, see Bond down at the shooting range.
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LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,992Quartermasters
We'll see. I am told by a reliable source that Bonds personal arm will be addressed in some way in QOS and that we will have a gun-fan-wanky moment.
I could see M taking his P99 away and giving him a smaller arm to remind him that it's for "personal defense", not shooting everyone who gives him a dirty look.
I really hope it's The Armourer that gives Bond his sidearm and not M.
I think it would be nice to, finally, see Bond down at the shooting range.
That would be cool, wouldn't it? I'm reminded of the first line from the MR novel: "The two thirty-eights roared simultaneously" B-) It would be a great 'touch of Fleming' to show a quick scene of why Bond is as good as he is. Preparation was always a big part of Bond's modus operandi, and it's always been pretty much ignored on film. The Cinematic Bond Traditionalists are fine with that, but some of us Flemingists would like to see this brought into the light.
This is the time to do it---and the actor with whom it ought to be done, IMO.
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I'm definately looking forward to whatever they can "cook up" with respect to Bond's sidearm, although I am still a bit baffled by a return to the PPK after such a long absence (excluding it's quasi appearance in the CR PTS).
A kind "homage" to Geoffrey Boothroyd (not the charecter of "Q") would be nice. I would like to see the silent fellow who injected the tracking chip into oo7's arm reappear, prehaps in another silent role as the armourer. Sometimes the less said the better.
Maybe they just have got a ppk for the frontside picture of the movie like Casino Royale, he hold a ppk then, but in the film he used a big and nice p99!:)
*Sigh* accoriding to ASP9mm rubber stunt PPKs have been bought to the set. you would not have any rubber stunt PPKs if the only time Bond is seen with a PPK is on the promo material.
Asp9mmOver the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
Maybe they just have got a ppk for the frontside picture of the movie like Casino Royale, he hold a ppk then, but in the film he used a big and nice p99!:)
*Sigh* accoriding to ASP9mm rubber stunt PPKs have been bought to the set. you would not have any rubber stunt PPKs if the only time Bond is seen with a PPK is on the promo material.
Yes, it does seem that the PPK will see quite a bit of airtime.
If you pause the first video, near the end, on the QoS website you can see Craig shooting. The gun looks smaller than the full size P-99, although he and the gun are at an angle to the lens. It doesn't look like a PPK either. If I had to guess it looks like the PPS or P-99C, but admittedly the freeze frame is quite blurry. But with the S&W video for the PPS being quite Bondish, it makes me think that if there is to be a new gun, this is it.
Initially I found it to be ugly, but it is growing on me. It is a much better suited handgun for 007 than the P-99 for no other reason than the size. It is almost exactly the same height and length of a PPK/S, but in 9mm and also in 40S&W.
I know a few people at S&W. I'll try to get in touch with someone and find out if they know anything. Not sure if anyone would know one way or another, but I'll check.
Asp9mmOver the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
Cheers Josh, that would be cool. Let us know when you have PPS holsters in and you'll be getting some orders. Yours are in my top three with Matts (Del Fatti official Leather of The Cult) and Ken Nulls {[]
Everything is made to order. I don't stock anything anymore. No time, but if you want something, send me a PM and I'll get something to you soon.
As for the PPS, I'll try to call a company that makes resin guns for movies as well. I don't know if they make anything for overseas productions though.
I'd like to get one of Red Grants Connery shoulder rigs. Is he still making them?
Asp9mmOver the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
He is yeah, and they are top notch accurate. Would'nt recommend carrying in them permanently though
I hope the P99 is still around. I am not a huge guy and I carry the full size P99 on a regular basis so it makes no sense for them to just change it for size alone. Perhaps the PPK is a Tuxedo gun and the P99 is still his normal gun.
Bond needs gun which is powerfull enough, stylish, black and compact. I don't care is it S&W, Walther, Colt or whatever but it CAN'T be a somekind of big revolver or beretta...
PPS is quite good too but I know better ones...I still don't decide that
I think your answer is in this previous post from this very Topic! The handgun Bond fields is likely a decision based on imput from the Producers, Director and Special effects people.
Could be that the P99 was used in CR'06 just because it was used in DAD, and no thought went into the matter.
That's what I mean 7289. There WAS plenty of thought put into his weapon of choice and at one time they were going with the PPK, even to the point of buying them in. The only reason they went with the older P99 model and not the newer AS was the accuracy of the PAK version to the pre 2004's. The converted live P99's are notorious for jamming. The thooght that went into the silencer design was extensive too compared to the other films, as they used stock PAK silencers and the CR version was built from scratch around the CO2 design.
Walther wanted Eon to use the PPS for QOS, but they claimed it was too small and ugly. This is why I can't understand the PPK move.
Asp9mmOver the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
That was speculative news based upon early script leaks. May or may not have been true, hence I stuck the RUMOUR tag onto the thread.
I truth, we know nothing of how the arming of Bond is going to pan out. All we have for certain is the PPK information. We may have another pistol in the film somewhere, and we may even have a scene were the arming of 007 is discussed, We don't know. The PPS seems the ideal choice for Bond, it WAS designed for people who carry concealed for a living. We don't know yet.
What I do find strange though, is that no official image of Bond with gun in hand has been released. This far into the filming, Eon have usually released a ton of images like this. We don't even see him shooting in any of the clips online. This is strange for a Bond film.
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NightshooterIn bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
What I do find strange though, is that no official image of Bond with gun in hand has been released. This far into the filming, Eon have usually released a ton of images like this. We don't even see him shooting in any of the clips online. This is strange for a Bond film.
It's only a preception, but this cast and crew seems to run a tad to the left and may have diecided to forgo Bond brandishing an evil and very un-pc pistol. Maybe the "gun moment" is Bond tossing his PPK into the Thames!!!
The PPS boys are pretty much spot on. I don't think the P99C has any advantage over the regular P99 though.
PPS was the logical choice for QOS, but then I recall some disappointment when Bond showed up in Casino Royale with the P99 instead of the PPK?????
Gotta love that PPK, it is one handsome pistol. The newer P99 and PPS are good looking too in their own "phaser"ish way. While I am not looking to see clips or previews from the film, I sure would like to know about the pistol!!!!!!!!
Well it is a little early to tell if the PPS is going to turn up or not.
I remember learning about the Walther P99 appearing in TND sometime in the summer of 1997, just the film was being finished, so I would imagine we will have to wait til principal photography is finished to find out.
Maybe their will be a clip of Bond holding in the teaser trailer which comes out in July.
The guys I talked to at S&W don't know about the PPS. They said that the guns would have come from Germany. One of them said that since they (S&W) lauched the Bondeque ad campaign, the gun will most likely appear in the film. I caught the commercial during "Shooting USA" on the Outdoor Channel and it basically screams Bond. So take it for what you will.
I don't know why S&W wouldn't know about the PPS. After all, they will be the main importer along with Earl's Repair Service. There are already many of these in th country. Still scarce, but available if you know where to look.
Earl doesn't yet have prices up meaning he doesn't have them yet. You can bet he'll be charging at least 200.00 more than anyone else.
I'll be buying in late July or August, but it won't be from Earl.
Asp9mmOver the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
I think he is referring to the fact that S&W do not know about whether the PPS being used in QOS.
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Great news all round :007)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
The PPK/S is not a newer gun. The PPK/S is just a PPK slide on a PP frame. This was done for the US market who could not import a gun as small as a PPK. Taken as that, the PPK/S is as old as both the PPK or PP.
The PPS is a state of the art firearm made for people who are in Bonds job and need to carry a pistol well concealed. The P99-C is a great gun too but is slightly wider and therefore harder to conceal. IT's a trade off between concealment and number of rounds. Bond can easily overcome this by carrying more mags which would be far easier to hide if they were for the PPS over the double stacked P99 or P99-C.
I thought it was ugly at first, but the design does grow on you. I really like it now.
I really hope it's The Armourer that gives Bond his sidearm and not M.
I think it would be nice to, finally, see Bond down at the shooting range.
That would be cool, wouldn't it? I'm reminded of the first line from the MR novel: "The two thirty-eights roared simultaneously" B-) It would be a great 'touch of Fleming' to show a quick scene of why Bond is as good as he is. Preparation was always a big part of Bond's modus operandi, and it's always been pretty much ignored on film. The Cinematic Bond Traditionalists are fine with that, but some of us Flemingists would like to see this brought into the light.
This is the time to do it---and the actor with whom it ought to be done, IMO.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
A kind "homage" to Geoffrey Boothroyd (not the charecter of "Q") would be nice. I would like to see the silent fellow who injected the tracking chip into oo7's arm reappear, prehaps in another silent role as the armourer. Sometimes the less said the better.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
*Sigh* accoriding to ASP9mm rubber stunt PPKs have been bought to the set. you would not have any rubber stunt PPKs if the only time Bond is seen with a PPK is on the promo material.
Yes, it does seem that the PPK will see quite a bit of airtime.
Initially I found it to be ugly, but it is growing on me. It is a much better suited handgun for 007 than the P-99 for no other reason than the size. It is almost exactly the same height and length of a PPK/S, but in 9mm and also in 40S&W.
I know a few people at S&W. I'll try to get in touch with someone and find out if they know anything. Not sure if anyone would know one way or another, but I'll check.
As for the PPS, I'll try to call a company that makes resin guns for movies as well. I don't know if they make anything for overseas productions though.
I'd like to get one of Red Grants Connery shoulder rigs. Is he still making them?
PPS is quite good too but I know better ones...I still don't decide that
Something quite small and stylish...
I think your answer is in this previous post from this very Topic! The handgun Bond fields is likely a decision based on imput from the Producers, Director and Special effects people.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
I truth, we know nothing of how the arming of Bond is going to pan out. All we have for certain is the PPK information. We may have another pistol in the film somewhere, and we may even have a scene were the arming of 007 is discussed, We don't know. The PPS seems the ideal choice for Bond, it WAS designed for people who carry concealed for a living. We don't know yet.
What I do find strange though, is that no official image of Bond with gun in hand has been released. This far into the filming, Eon have usually released a ton of images like this. We don't even see him shooting in any of the clips online. This is strange for a Bond film.
Should've spoiler tagged that.
It's only a preception, but this cast and crew seems to run a tad to the left and may have diecided to forgo Bond brandishing an evil and very un-pc pistol. Maybe the "gun moment" is Bond tossing his PPK into the Thames!!!
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
http://ppstalk.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=265
PPS was the logical choice for QOS, but then I recall some disappointment when Bond showed up in Casino Royale with the P99 instead of the PPK?????
Gotta love that PPK, it is one handsome pistol. The newer P99 and PPS are good looking too in their own "phaser"ish way. While I am not looking to see clips or previews from the film, I sure would like to know about the pistol!!!!!!!!
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
I remember learning about the Walther P99 appearing in TND sometime in the summer of 1997, just the film was being finished, so I would imagine we will have to wait til principal photography is finished to find out.
Maybe their will be a clip of Bond holding in the teaser trailer which comes out in July.
On the other hand the presence of stunt PPK's on the set says alot, and there is one rather blurry clip of DC shooting what is most likely a PPK.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
The website for Shooting USA is having a giveaway for the PPS if anyone want to enter, go check it out. Here's the link: http://www.shootingusa.com/LATEST_UPDATES/gun_a_month/gun_a_month.html
Here is a link to the commercial that is running in the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2BOwJvS2lM
Earl doesn't yet have prices up meaning he doesn't have them yet. You can bet he'll be charging at least 200.00 more than anyone else.
I'll be buying in late July or August, but it won't be from Earl.