DAF carries a subtext about dualities and the nature of reality, which is perhaps surprising in what is normally considered a lightweight entry in what is normally considered a lightweight film series. This is why, to paraphrase, it appears simultaneously bogus, beautiful and intriguing.
Don't think so- that version isn't on it! )
Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
Wow, sounds like someone has an issue with Halle Berry. I think DAD is the worst Bond film ever made and agree that Jinx is a useless character. But to lay all of the character's failings at Halle Berry's feet is a bit much, particularly when done in a way that borders on the assassination of a real person's character.
Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
Fair enough, CP. I never put much credence in the Jinx spinoff talk, but you are right that it was there. I completely agree with your broader point that the character was badly written and directed (and acted, as I find Berry's performance too showy). Jinx is probably the best example of the one word that best summarizes all of DAD for me -- forced.
Jimmy Bond wrote:
Well, here comes yet another resurrected thread. Don't like to do this, but rules are rules...
I've been watching the Dalton/Brosnan entries week-by-week, with a friend who's never seen them, and we reached DAD yesterday, and to my surprise I enjoyed it more this time than previously. The flaws are all there, the need to consummate the seriousness found on TWINE still there, but I did appreciate the good stuff in it.
First of all, Pierce is really good in this. He's at his angriest, and instead of being petulant of visibly furious like Dalton in LTK, his experience in life and on the job informs his restrained but still clear desire for vengeance. In the first half in particular he drives the film and earns his place as one of the best Bonds. The action, such as it is, is still fantastically well done, and I love the cinematography, definitely the best-looking of the Dalton/Brosnan entries. And it needsto be stressed ho how good the first half of the film is. It does dip a bit when Berry's Jinx comes up, but I think up until the VR sequence with Q, it's potentially better than anything since GE. I mean, the pre-title sequence is fantastic, Bond being put to torture is just as good, his escape while extraordinary, feels like something Fleming would've written, the sword fight in the club is good, the action in the clinic is good, the M-Bond scenes are as good as ever... It's all good, man.
.... Then it goes to Iceland. Sigh. I don't need to repeat the criticism here, but suffice to say, for me, the jokes became unbearing at this point. This is a beef that I have with TND as well, but they did load Brosnans Bond with a LOT of one-liners and jokes, too many of them not working at all, either. I like the car chase, but I'd have preferred it if wasn't an invisible car. Basically, I wish the rest of the film carried in that time of the first half.
But, I still enjoyed it. Its way better than I remembered it, and I do think it works, despite its glaring flaws. Its way better than QOS, at least.
Apologies if I am digging up an old thread and maybe reposting what someone else already mentioned but I watched the film again a while ago after many years and I think that there is a little reference to 9/11 in the film that might have gone unnoticed.
Assuming the events of the film after the PTS take place in the release year of the film 2002, Bond gets captured in North Korea 14 months earlier. We could assume this happens before September 2001 and the rest of the film after the PTS happens after 2002. M mentions to Bond in the underground station "While you were away, the world changed". I always assumed she was referring to the changes made to global security following the 9/11 attacks. It just occurred to me that there may be a slight nod to the fact that the terrorist attacks happened on 9/11 because Bond was not available to thwart them as he was trapped in North Korea!
that is precisely how I interpreted that line at the time, and it was commented on in contemporary reviews.
how come James Bond didnt save the world on Sept 11th like he'd been doing for forty years? well this films precredits explain it
I may even have read these comments at the time but I couldn't find anything using the search field so that's why I posted again here.