Danny Boyle has left Bond25 over 'creative differences'

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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,529MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    Just saw this on Twitter.

    But according to you, Someone, Boyle was never directing Bond 25! :007)

    It does make you wonder whether they have someone in the wings. The logical candidate would be Mendes, I'm afraid.

    Eh, my hypothesis is somewhat torpedoed...

    This does suggest that what we have been watching has been the proverbial cluster and not something well organised.

    I imagine now that Harris, Fiennes and Whishaw have said nothing because they know nothing because it has been mismanaged that badly.

    What an utter disaster.

    I refer the honourable gentlemen to my earlier comments about B25 being Quantum of Solace all over again.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,735MI6 Agent
    I think David McKenzie and Yann Demange are still available. Either one works for me. The big question is really the script. Do they go back to the P&W script? Before the Hodge/Boyle script EON was apparently ready to move forward with P&W's script. If they can get Demange on board (who is also a writer) maybe he can do a quick polish, inject a few of his own ideas, re-write a few things and Bond 25 can proceed as scheduled. For EON to give Boyle the bounce, things must have gone a bit far off the rails.
    Credit to Someone....they did say that Boyle would not direct Bond 25 :))
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,620MI6 Agent
    Frankly I did not see this coming at all. I can also say I'm disapointed. SF and SPECTRE had much I enjoy, but sometimes the action didn't have the urgency and energy they needed. The Rome car chase in SP is the obvious example. Danny Boyle's movies are different from eachother in some ways, but they all had that energy.

    If Mendes is busty with his WWI movie I guess they'll ask one of they have considered earlier in the process.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,529MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    Gymkata wrote:
    Betcha Craig walks. If memory serves, Boyle was the main thing keeping him for a 5th film.

    Don't think so......Craig announced he was returning before Boyle came aboard. Plus the announcement came from a small group including Craig.

    I agree. Craig is in it for the money, not creative reasons. He signed on with a Purvis and Wade script!

    They wrote Casino. They didn't write Quantum. They were asked to salvage Spectre, it made $880 million.
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    ichaice wrote:
    I’m hoping Martin Campbell comes in. What a wonderful job he did with Casino Royale and Goldeneye was very good as well.
    +1 I thought he did a great job with the CR reboot. He knows the character, the team and could be good to see DC out after all these years in his finale.

    DB probably wanted to kill him off or it was all just a dream just like Dallas :D

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    Sam Mendes - three in a row? I wonder what the odds are of his return. Perhaps he can delay his other projects and parachute into Bond 25. I'd rather see a new director but Mendes would be a safe decision.
  • MrGoreMrGore Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    edited August 2018
    I believe this is another first for the Bond franchise. Don't recall a director publicly quitting this close to announcing the beginning of a production, which I assume would have been later this year.

    Oh dear. How embarrassing for EON. Delayed production anyone?

    This is all becoming an object lesson in how not to manage a multi-million dollar franchise. Thanks BB and MGW. Just as well the fans are really patient.

    Mendes/Purvis?Wade again? Ugh
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :o wow !
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,620MI6 Agent
    Martin Campbell has two movies i the pipeline. He and Mendes is the closest to a "in-house" director for EON.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,620MI6 Agent
    David Mackenzie has nothing on IMDB after "Outlaw king" premiers in November!
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,735MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Cheverian wrote:
    Just saw this on Twitter.

    But according to you, Someone, Boyle was never directing Bond 25! :007)

    It does make you wonder whether they have someone in the wings. The logical candidate would be Mendes, I'm afraid.

    Eh, my hypothesis is somewhat torpedoed...

    This does suggest that what we have been watching has been the proverbial cluster and not something well organised.

    I imagine now that Harris, Fiennes and Whishaw have said nothing because they know nothing because it has been mismanaged that badly.

    What an utter disaster.
    I refer the honourable gentlemen to my earlier comments about B25 being Quantum of Solace all over again.


    I wouldn't jump to any conclusions on this one. Apparently the Hodge/Boyle script appealed to EON, et al. We don't know what kind of crazy Boyle tried to push on EON subsequently. Why do people continue to paint this picture of EON being a bunch of fools who can't get out of their own way. They are the stewards of the most successful movie franchise in history. I know that Cubby and Harry
    were the architects of the franchise but the children have carried on very successfully.

    Here's an interesting list of films which turned out to be very successful despite the director being replaced:
    Spartacus, Wizard of Oz, Gone With the Wind, Apocolypse Now, Toy Story 2, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Superman 2.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,595MI6 Agent
    edited August 2018
    MrGore wrote:
    I believe this is another first for the Bond franchise. Don't recall a director publicly quitting this close to announcing the beginning of a production, which I assume would have been later this year.

    Oh dear. How embarrassing for EON. Delayed production anyone?

    This is all becoming an object lesson in how not to manage a multi-million dollar franchise. Thanks BB and MGW. Just as well the fans are really patient.

    Mendes/Purvis?Wade again? Ugh

    It's not as bad as a director being fired in the middle of production. Look at the PR disaster that Solo was! Still, it turned out to be a good film.
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  • MrGoreMrGore Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    They wrote Casino. They didn't write Quantum. They were asked to salvage Spectre, it made $880 million.

    And Sony probably made about $50 million profit after costs, according to sources. Not much for a reported production/P&A total cost of almost $350 million. Studio gets 50% of worldwide rentals. $400 million. (25% of gross rentals in China) Bingo. $50 million profit. I'm sure they were thrilled with that. Not.

    There are some fantastic writers in the business who could write a far better script than P/W. Everyone who loves this franchise welcomes fresh ideas. On Casino Royale P/W had the blessing of fabulous 60 year old source material.

    New writers + new director. Please.
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    Maybe it’s all part of the rouse for Bond 25 keep everyone guessing what is going on - I kinda like all the drama stops things being boring :))

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,595MI6 Agent
    MrGore wrote:
    They wrote Casino. They didn't write Quantum. They were asked to salvage Spectre, it made $880 million.

    And Sony probably made about $50 million profit after costs, according to sources. Not much for a reported production/P&A total cost of almost $350 million. Studio gets 50% of worldwide rentals. $400 million. (25% of gross rentals in China) Bingo. $50 million profit. I'm sure they were thrilled with that. Not.

    There are some fantastic writers in the business who could write a far better script than P/W. Everyone who loves this franchise welcomes fresh ideas. On Casino Royale P/W had the blessing of fabulous 60 year old source material.

    New writers + new director. Please.

    Sony had a bad deal. That's not a reflection on the success of the film. However, financial success doesn't mean something is good. The good thing about Purvis and Wade is that they know the Fleming stories and the character.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,620MI6 Agent
    Yann Demage only has a TV episode to do after White Boy Rick is released on the 14th of September.
    I hope Demage or Mackenzie gets the job and they keep the Hodges script.
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    Boyle had expressed doubt over directing a Bond film:

    26 March 2013

    Having directed Daniel Craig - and HM the Queen - for the opening ceremony's Happy and Glorious segment, is he tempted to throw his hat in the ring? It is a question that prompts a well-practiced response.

    "I wouldn't be disinclined, but I'm not really the right guy to make those kind of films," says a director whose sole link to date with so-called 'franchise' cinema was a brief flirtation with the Alien series.

    "I like working slightly under the radar, rather than the responsibility of having to deliver to a certain expectation."

    But have the Bond team been in touch? With a chuckle, Boyle nimbly deflects the question by repeating that he "wouldn't be the right kind of person to do those kind of films".

    Well, looks like he wasn't the right person! 8-)
  • MrZarebaMrZareba Krakow, PolandPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    Hopefully Craig is not walking. If he's walking I'm selling my whole collection.
  • clublosclublos Jacksonville, FLPosts: 193MI6 Agent
    MrZareba wrote:
    Hopefully Craig is not walking. If he's walking I'm selling my whole collection.

    That's harsh. You do realize that other actors have played James Bond?
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,748MI6 Agent
    Because there is a release date officially on the books (and it’s next year), I expect we’ll have some clarity sooner rather than later regarding a delay. There are shareholders and things of that nature in play so that can’t really drag it out for months on end.
  • John Francis KennedyJohn Francis Kennedy South lanarkshire, ScotlandPosts: 88MI6 Agent
    Danny Boyle has a talent and reputation for some really original stuff, my own hunch is he was ‘going too far’ .
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,529MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    :))

    Everybody should rejoice.

    Do you mean you prefer another director?

    Or do you mean you know something about the Hodge script that would have everyone frothing at the mouth?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,620MI6 Agent
    When will we know the name of the new director?
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 916MI6 Agent
    Maybe his plan was to have Bond become a junkie and dive into dirty toilets.....!
  • SolarisSolaris Blackpool, UKPosts: 308MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    When will we know the name of the new director?

    I would assume soon, unless they announce a further delay and we don't get a film until 2020.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 35,974Chief of Staff
    Number24 wrote:

    If Mendes is busty...

    Well, there have been many comments good and bad about Mendes, but that's a first! :D
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    It’s going to be a very interesting next couple of months... :s
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,620MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Number24 wrote:

    If Mendes is busty...

    Well, there have been many comments good and bad about Mendes, but that's a first! :D

    Once again, Autocorrect can proudly take responsibility for that one :))
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,475MI6 Agent
    Danny Boyle has a talent and reputation for some really original stuff, my own hunch is he was ‘going too far’ .

    Nail on head. And then some. There’s a point when Bond isn’t Bond anymore. It’s a blurry line, but there is a line. He isn’t a secondary character in his own film, and he isn’t a soapbox to air political and sexual opinions for the sake of virtue signalling.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    I hope it doesn't get delayed until 2020. A five year wait would be ridiculous. Not to mention embarrassing for EON considering they already made a press release confirming the 2019 release date.
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