NTTD Movie Questions/remarks - not Reviews (maybe SPOILERS in responses)

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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    maybe his "mad as a bag of bees" babbling was cover for occasionally giving instructions or speeches over a hidden microphone? His guards were used to him continuously babbling and even if he seemed sometimes coherent they couldn't have taken his birthday speech to be literally true, more like he was having paranoid waking dreams.

    Still, with all the security of his cell, why did nobody think to examine that prosthetic eyeball when he was first locked up?

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    There are several questions about the "mosquitos" line on pg2. @Number24 has already answered correctly, but my understanding is Norway's climate is similar to northern Ontario and we sure get'em here. That boggy lowland landscape looked like mosquito territory to me.

    The line might not have gone anywhere in terms of plot points, but symbolically did remind us the pervasiveness of the virus threat. At the time of filming they might have felt we needed reminding how viruses normally spread, to keep that fear in the back of our minds even if it hadnt been mentioned in the plot for a few scenes. Not so needed now, of course, I couldnt sit in the theatre without being aware of all my fellow theatre-goers airborn aerosols. And of course we've now got used to a whole different medium of virus spread since the film's delays, so the symbolic significance of mosquitos might actually be less obvious in our aerosol-obsessed present than 18 months ago.


    But the child's actual line, an unanswered question in itself: "do mosquitos have friends?" is that maybe symbolic? Bond is a killer, is he any better than the mosquitos? Does he have friends? This whole detour to rescue Madeleine is Bond acknowledging his obligation to a friend.

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    ha! this film really is very dense with information, even at its bloated length. Once we get the dvd's we'll need to make notes and flowchart this stuff out.

    I had vowed to take a peebreak during an action sequence, since those usually drag on forever without actually adding to the plot. But in this film the infodumps were coming fast and furious during even the action scenes, and often relayed visually rather than through dialog (for the record, I ducked out during Felix's death scene, I figured how Bond escapes from the boat is the least important question at this point)

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    damn you're right! first ever Blofeld appearance without the white cat! What a rip-off, hardly a proper Blofeld appearance at all...

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    oh this one's easy! James Bond 007 Licensed to Kill is a better shot than a little girl!

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    I think this was a deliberate bit of unresolved suspense throughout the second half of the film. For a long stretch I suspected Safin was the father, since Madeleine seemed suspiciously close to him and Bond already had reason to be jealous of their relationship. During the faux-dinner scene, when Safin held the child and went through the "philosophy of power" type debate, I felt they were provoking that suspicion.

    At the end Madeleine confirms Mathilde did inherit her blue eyes from Bond. But when first asked she said the opposite, perhaps because she was mad at Bond and wanted him out of the child's life. But at the end, when she knows Bond is dying, is she just telling him what he wants to hear?

    The possibility Mathilde is actually Safin's child remains open-ended, but narratively it doesn't work for the child to be anybody else's but Bond's. The credits show DNA patterns formed by guns, and its not just the nanobots that are being foreshadowed: Bond may die but has successfully replicated his own DNA, the literal Purpose of Life.



    The question of how she keeps this child secret from MI6 is very good. The motivation can be inferred, the child is in greater danger if the world knows she is Bond's. But how does she keep the secret when working for Military Intelligence, who are payed to know such things? (then again Kissy Suzuki similarly fooled them in the novel). And the real threat is from Blofeld. the master-mindgamer who has was shown having access to all the world's surveillance data his first appearance. Howd she keep the info from him? And why should she volunteer to be his psychiatrist when he's the one person above all she has to protect her child from?

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    thanks @Asp9mm

    do you know of any other scenes or shots that were cut from the final film?

  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,075MI6 Agent

    I know they shot three alternate endings. And quite extensive versions too.

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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    asp9mm said:

    I know they shot three alternate endings. And quite extensive versions too.


    any idea what those alternate ending s were? hopefully we get them as bonus features on the dvd

  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,075MI6 Agent

    The people that were involved all had to sign heavy NDA’s so even if I knew I couldn’t say. And I don’t.

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  • RevelatorRevelator Posts: 362MI6 Agent

    I read somewhere on the MI6 board that the three endings rumor wasn't true. Different endings were proposed at the script stage but no later.

  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,075MI6 Agent
    edited October 2021

    It’s definitely true. And they were shot. Even the foreign language voice over artists recorded 3 different endings. So they got well past the post production stage.

    This doesn’t necessarily mean that they hadn’t settled on the final ending though. They might have done it so that those crew involved didn’t definitively know what the ending would be. This is quite a common thing to do with major endings or cliffhangers like this on both TV programmes and films.

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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    I cant imagine the expense, especially if they played out significantly differently. The ending we got looked expensive enough. And now we're worrying this film may not make enough money...

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    two more questions:

    I sat through most of the credits, but did not see. Was there any "In Memory of" for Connery and Moore? (not to mention Blackman and Rigg, and I've lost count of how many others)

    and...

    I'd say the film had five main acts (1. precredits, 2. raid/Jamaica/Cuba, 3. scenes in London, 4. scenes in Norway, 5. the villain's headquarters). Has anybody timed them? the precredits and the villain's headquarters scenes were both conspicuously long and I wonder how they compare to previous entries.

  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 32,229Chief of Staff

    No "In Memory Of" that I saw. Haven't timed anything yet.

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,765MI6 Agent

    I found this FAQ style online article that purports to answer some of the outstanding questions: 'No Time to Die’ explained: All your James Bond plot questions answered

    answers courtesy of Mark Salisbury, who the intro states had backstage access and has written a book called No Time To Die: The Making of the Film so sounds like someone who oughta know.

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