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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    As I used to say to my daughters when they'd say " I'm Bored " ... I'd
    answer " Only Boring people get bored " ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    edited September 2020
    I hope our UK members are out on the town drinking something the NHS warns against, because the pubs, bars and nightclubs will be closed again from tomorrow. I also understand the rule of six will be in effect again, or as out Swedish friends write it - "sex-regelen". :D
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I hope our UK members are out on the town drinking something the NHS warns against, because the pubs, bars and nightclubs will be closed again from tomorrow.

    It seems you are .....
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    Good God,I was right! Every British man, woman and child old enough to sneak in are in pub tonight :o
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 25,375Chief of Staff
    Number24 wrote:
    Good God,I was right! Every British man, woman and child old enough to sneak in are in pub tonight :o

    Pubs round my way had already been closed a couple of days before...

    And the new rate is 191 cases per 100,000...I genuinely believe my town is after breaking the 200 barrier...
    YNWA 97
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    I just discovered Norway has 204.03 cases out of 100.000 :# :#
  • Royale-les-EauxRoyale-les-Eaux LondonPosts: 462MI6 Agent
    There have been several reports on the increase of calls to the Samaritans
    https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/advance-article/doi/10.1093/qjmed/hcaa202/5857612
    With increases in depression, alcoholism etc. The Pandemic may have a long lasting
    Mental effect on many. Luckily like Sir Miles, I'm happy in my own company.
    a colleague volunteers with them. It is, tragically, real and rising still.
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 861MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I just discovered Norway has 204.03 cases out of 100.000 :# :#

    HOLY-MOLY!!! And Finland just relaxed our travel restrictions from Norway and Sweden!!!
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    I think Finland is one of the few countries in Europe where the number of new cases isn't going up. Corona has to be pushed back here in Norway, but it's still under control.
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 2,118MI6 Agent
    It is a continuing shambles in the UK..

    - Testing website doesn't work properly.
    - Some people being offered tests are asked to drive hundreds of miles.
    - NHS staff cannot get tests meaning they have to self isolate if showing symptoms, taking them away from their work when they're
    most needed.
    - NHS staff that may be asymptomatic will be spreading the virus to colleagues and patients unknowingly, as staff testing is not
    available.
    - 'Rule of Six' introduced but Police advised not to issue fines right away.
    - Government line continues to be; people 'can' be fined or 'could' be fined. Not 'will'.
    - Face masks still not being worn by all people in shops etc.

    8-)
    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,423MI6 Agent
    ...plus on the government webpage you can still print out the stupid „I am extempt to wear a mask“ sign.... X-(
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    All the pupils in the 10th grade in my nephew's scool are quarantined because one of the boys have been diagnosed with corona, and their church confimation is this weekend! They are being tested and my nephew doesn't know the infected boy, but we have hotel room for Thursday nigh to Sunday. That means we (my parents and I) will have to drive all Thursday to get there, then hope the results of the test of my nephew is ready on Friday. If he is well we'll attend the cermony on Saturday, but if he is infected we'll probably drive hom that day instead. I know lots of people are facing much worse problems because of corona than I am, probably there are members in this forum who are facing bigger problems because of the pandemic, but I'm frustrated and a little nervous.
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 861MI6 Agent
    edited September 2020
    Number24 wrote:
    I think Finland is one of the few countries in Europe where the number of new cases isn't going up. Corona has to be pushed back here in Norway, but it's still under control.

    The problem is, that some industries are really pushing for more relaxed guidelines. I had a "professional chat" with some one in the know (I know that's vague, but it's that way on purpose), and it was the lobbying efforts by the group formed by tourism- hospitality- and event businesses, that convinced the government to start relaxing travel restrictions, even thought the second wave is gathering speed.
    To quote Pfc. Frost: "Man I'm telling you, I got a baad feeling about this drop..."

    EDIT: I just realized that peoples first thought will run to Miranda, so I had to clarify which Frost...
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    Today the quaratine and border crossing rules were thightened a bit and local autorities in the areas with outbreaks are going further.
    I still haven't seen anyone with facemasks, but I haven't visited any larger towns in months.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,423MI6 Agent
    0073 wrote:
    The problem is, that some industries are really pushing for more relaxed guidelines. I had a "professional chat" with some one in the know (I know that's vague, but it's that way on purpose), and it was the lobbying efforts by the group formed by tourism- hospitality- and event businesses, that convinced the government to start relaxing travel restrictions, even thought the second wave is gathering speed.
    "

    From today, brothels are open and „freelancers“ are allowed to work again in Germany - so I wonder who was lobbying whom and how ;%

    Seriously speaking I am afraid that the second wave will hit us much harder and longer than the first one.
    We are far from over with this
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • The Spy Who Never DiesThe Spy Who Never Dies UKPosts: 642MI6 Agent
    I don't understand why, in England, youth groups are exempt from the group of 6 rule. There are restrictions on kids in school as to how much contact they are allowed with other kids. But then they can attend youth groups where they would be mixing with a different set of kids and adults, socially distanced I know but it still doesn't make sense to me.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 25,375Chief of Staff
    I don't understand why, in England, youth groups are exempt from the group of 6 rule. There are restrictions on kids in school as to how much contact they are allowed with other kids. But then they can attend youth groups where they would be mixing with a different set of kids and adults, socially distanced I know but it still doesn't make sense to me.

    Don’t ever look for sense from the government :)) :#

    The pubs are shut in my town but I can still go to the gym :o
    YNWA 97
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,301MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    From today, brothels are open and „freelancers“ are allowed to work again in Germany - so I wonder who was lobbying whom and how ;%

    Seriously speaking I am afraid that the second wave will hit us much harder and longer than the first one.
    We are far from over with this

    I do hope your second paragraph does not refer to events in your first paragraph, Higgins... :o
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    I think a vaccine will be ready for the market this winter and 2021 will be spent fighting corona. By 2022 most of the pandemic will be under control in the developed world. Third world countries will be dependent on rich countries and non-state organisations to buy vaccines.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    A study by Columbia University estimates that 36 000 fewer Americans would have died from Covid-19 if lockdown had happened one week earlier.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html
  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 2,642MI6 Agent
    That article would fall under Stage 4 of crisis response.

    https://youtu.be/7hsNfNM0SvE?t=269
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 2,118MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    A study by Columbia University estimates that 36 000 fewer Americans would have died from Covid-19 if lockdown had happened one week earlier.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html

    And the sad fact is, so many more could still be saved if not for incompetence, selfishness and ignorance.. X-(
    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    The autjhorities in the USA are reported to be planning free corona vaccines for all citizens.
    But ... isn't that .....................socialism? :o :o :o
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :)) Great to see you're against that idea !!!
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    I'm not against it, but I don't think we should tell some of the Americans here. They are nice and everything, but I don't think they learn a lot about ideologies at school. I remember one who belived the congess was far left. :D
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Socialism came to the west years ago,
    When the public were forced to bail
    Out the Banks :))
    I think most champagne socialists
    Agreed with that, no rich socialist
    Wanted to lose any money. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,384MI6 Agent
    Perhaps you slept through those lessons back in the day? Using tax money to bail out banks isn't socialism, taxing them a lot or even nationalizing them is more their style. Remember it was Bush the Younger who bailed out banks first in the 2008 crisis.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Yes, but it"s still turning private debt
    In to National debt. Perhaps you had
    A bout of somnambulism at that time :p
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 861MI6 Agent
    Socialism came to the west years ago,
    When the public were forced to bail
    Out the Banks :))
    I think most champagne socialists
    Agreed with that, no rich socialist
    Wanted to lose any money. ;)

    You do make a valid point. Bailing out banks means that they can act with abandon not afforded to any other business. IMHO banks should face realistic business risks, it is the only way to avoid crisis like the subprime debacle of 2008. The fear of losing money would keep them in check. The reason this is not done, is that the price paid by the society in large when a bank fails would be too steep, paid in bankruptcies, unemployment, lost savings and retirement funds and personal tragedies in scores.

    Although I have to point out, that just bailing out banks does not a socialism make. Also there is a quite large leap from socialism to communism.
    And finally, the first recorded strike in the Unites States of A was in 1768 and first trade union in America was founded in 1794, so socialism has very deep roots in the US.
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
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