The thing with this current "LOSER", okay Trump is clueless but at least he speaks his mind, he was employed by TFL? he lived with his children on a housing estate enjoying all the freedoms this country has to offer and yet he still bloody hates us and what we stand for!
The "LOSER" who hit the Manchester concert targeted "Debauchery" a bunch of kids ranging from 6 to 18 enjoying themselves. Perhaps he was actually targeting the name of the Concert Tour...who knows?
If Enough is Enough means we will see more Seek & Destroy Armed response then my X will by firmly planted in the BLUE BOX on June 8th. It is about time (no disrespect to our serving officers) this country grew a pair on "home soil" and struck back. If the cray's were still with us there would be a large amount of empty properties on recently mentioned housing estates that you can firmly count on! as they truly did believe in "they take one of yours to the hospital, they take one or more of yours to the Morgue!" and when it came to attacks on children, any children, you were TOAST!
I think many agree, more than would admit it for fear of being called racist or fascist etc. I honestly think if there was a referendum on terminating say the 3000 on the watch list, I'd put money on it being overwhelming in favour of such action.
It's not racism. If anything those attacking are the racists. They have even perverted their own beliefs to justify their actions according to the majority Muslim community if I'm understanding correctly? Decades ago the IRA hit their first soft target where in London horses & their mounts were blown to bits at basically a concert. There was public outcry followed by two more soft targets followed by an attempt on the Prime Minister over a period of time. We are back in those times of uncertainty & I'd rather have ARV's patrolling the streets so they are there within a matter of minutes to terminate a threat than not have them there. The days of the British Bobby giving a perp' a whack over the head with his cape or a tap with a truncheon are over & if the bastards are wearing anti-stab armour stun guns are not gonna do much! We need trained professionals, armed to the teeth, prepared to take out targets when they get the green light....and for those who say well join up then! ...Donkey trained but his country didn't want him! Deferment is a real bitch!
There are many important questions that comes to mind after reading your post, but I'll just ask the main one: Why did you chose ppw3o6r as your username?
There are many important questions that comes to mind after reading your post, but I'll just ask the main one: Why did you chose ppw3o6r as your username?
If the 3000 on the watch list were "terminated" I fear it would create 9000 new candidates for the watch list.
And of course Britain would have turned itself into a banana republic that sends death squads around killing people.
Problem solved!
I've told you before! We have a royal family and we don't have the climate to grow bananas!
Let's just stop referring to these terrorists as people or citizens as that implies they are innocently going about their lawful business as opposed to a bunch of murderers and enemies of the citizens going about their awful business. No one is suggesting teams of death squads dragging people into the street and killing them or even persecuting members of any religion. I'm suggesting it would be a good idea to have a specialist panel of judges who can hand out a death warrant on a would terrorist after reading the hundreds of pages of intelligence on said person.
Like I've said before, a terrorist shot dead after an attack or during seems to be acceptable, what's the difference if he's terminated before an attack and no one gets stabbed to death, crushed by a van or ripped apart by a bomb? If these guys had the nerve to face us in open warfare no one would bat an eyelid if they all got shot!
There are many important questions that comes to mind after reading your post, but I'll just ask the main one: Why did you chose ppw3o6r as your username?
BMT216A was taken!
Yes, that makes sense
BTW: My name is a tribute to the WWII hero Gunnar Sønsteby. He chose Number 24 as his agent name because Number 13 was taken. True story.
That would be the formula for another religious war and hundreds of thousands of victims.
I understand the anger after those attacks and I know that among those 3000 there are really mean people, but when the head of state decides to terminate a certain group on people based on what they THINK instead of having a trial about what they really DID is just plain wrong!
We can just see in Turkey what happens when the head of state groups enemies of state by his own measures. Do we really have this happen in our society?
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
It's already happening in our society, only against us! Christians face wholesale slaughter accross the globe, look at turkey! Look at France last year when some extreme religious fanatics entered a church and slit the throat of an aging priest of a religion they hate! And we are told this is not a religious war? It is a war on many fronts, just because they don't wear uniforms doesn't mean they don't consider themselves soldiers. No government in modern society would ever sanction termination. Of these people, but they shouldn't be dealt with by the civilian courts either. As far as ISIS or ISIl are concerned they are fighting a religious war and a war against our society and freedoms and rights, and they won't stop until they've killed us all, broken our society or been stopped.
We rightly condemn this kind of religious racism. The fact that it happens from the other side should not mean that we go that radical as well.
A wise woman recently said: When they go low - we go high.
I am all for stopping those terrorists but we must be very careful not giving up our civil rights and not our way of justice.
As for modern societies not terminating killings - just have a look at Turkey. They have been regarded as 'modern' not many years ago - look what happens there now.
Coming back to the suggestion of deporting those 'one the list'. Even if you would manage to keep them off from our borders, that does not necessarily mean that they don't do their deeds somewhere else.
The UK are blessed by being an island, mainland Europe thas a land access thru Turkey to those states and greek islands are in sight from their borders.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
We shouldn't fall for what hose people really want: A religious war in the west which would involve now modest and not radical groups from all religions.
I understand the outrage, but we should be keen not losing our minds and hearts over all this.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I'm sure the 3000 on the list see it as a religious war. the problem is that if we kill them the way Chriscoop suggests far more people, in and outside the UK, will belive that narrative. If the problem was over or even lessened if you killed those 3000 tht suggestion would make some sense, but in all likelyhood it would worsen the problem.
OK, I'll tell you a true story, my barber that I attend is a Muslim from Turkmenistan, as are most of his staff. Last week when I went I noticed he and his all his barbers had shaved they're beards ( short neat trendy beards) I commented on this new look to him and he said it's because his business has dropped off a bit and he's worried it's because of the terrorism in the UK, he said he thought being clean shaven makes them look less like terrorists! I told him my view and he agreed!!
Moderate Muslims suffer also at the hands of these terrorists.
We can't resolve this through diplomacy or political resolve so what does anyone else suggest?
I'm also not sure that not admitting or saying this is a religious or cultural war gives us the higher ground?? What we should be saying is that we are not engaging in a war on race or culture, creed or religion but we are combating TERRORISM that we will not tolerate it. I don't know for sure but after the sas pre-emptively killing three IRA terrorists in Gibraltar to stop a huge bomb killing dozens of innocent people did all the Irish and catholics declare some sort of war? Or did thousands of people suddenly sign up to the IRA?
If the 3000 on the watch list were "terminated" I fear it would create 9000 new candidates for the watch list.
And of course Britain would have turned itself into a banana republic that sends death squads around killing people.
Problem solved!
I've told you before! We have a royal family and we don't have the climate to grow bananas!
Let's just stop referring to these terrorists as people or citizens as that implies they are innocently going about their lawful business as opposed to a bunch of murderers and enemies of the citizens going about their awful business. No one is suggesting teams of death squads dragging people into the street and killing them or even persecuting members of any religion. I'm suggesting it would be a good idea to have a specialist panel of judges who can hand out a death warrant on a would terrorist after reading the hundreds of pages of intelligence on said person.
Like I've said before, a terrorist shot dead after an attack or during seems to be acceptable, what's the difference if he's terminated before an attack and no one gets stabbed to death, crushed by a van or ripped apart by a bomb? If these guys had the nerve to face us in open warfare no one would bat an eyelid if they all got shot!
I also think it's disgusting that these killers will be named and their photos all over the news
And papers. I feel all we the public need to know, is that they have been identified by the police
I think one of the aims of these terrorists, is to gain as much publicity as possible, so why give
It too them.
I can still remember the sickening footage of the killers of Lee Rigby spouting their hate filled
Rant, their hands covered in blood.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I also think it's disgusting that these killers will be named and their photos all over the news
And papers. I feel all we the public need to know, is that they have been identified by the police
I think one of the aims of these terrorists, is to gain as much publicity as possible, so why give
It too them.
I can still remember the sickening footage of the killers of Lee Rigby spouting their hate filled
Rant, their hands covered in blood.
Agreed Tp, the victims should be named and honoured, the terrorist's not at all.
I also think it's disgusting that these killers will be named and their photos all over the news
And papers. I feel all we the public need to know, is that they have been identified by the police
I think one of the aims of these terrorists, is to gain as much publicity as possible, so why give
It too them.
I can still remember the sickening footage of the killers of Lee Rigby spouting their hate filled
Rant, their hands covered in blood.
I liked the fact that one of the mosques in Manchester refused to bury the Manchester bomber ...
I agree. When I have posted about the 2011 Utøya attack after the court case was over I have focused on the victims and not the terrorist.
I think the press should try to do that as much as possible, even though there are limits to this.
With all due respect to the last few posts, none of these are rants, more elliptical comments/observations.
A great Isis warrior could appear on this thread countering on about Western infidels, 4 and 20 Virgins and the Great Satan, Allah be praised! and the great mod in the sky Barbel would have to concede that such a post would be more appropriate to the name of this thread.
If the 3000 on the watch list were "terminated" I fear it would create 9000 new candidates for the watch list.
And of course Britain would have turned itself into a banana republic that sends death squads around killing people.
Problem solved!
I've told you before! We have a royal family and we don't have the climate to grow bananas!
Let's just stop referring to these terrorists as people or citizens as that implies they are innocently going about their lawful business as opposed to a bunch of murderers and enemies of the citizens going about their awful business. No one is suggesting teams of death squads dragging people into the street and killing them or even persecuting members of any religion. I'm suggesting it would be a good idea to have a specialist panel of judges who can hand out a death warrant on a would terrorist after reading the hundreds of pages of intelligence on said person.
Like I've said before, a terrorist shot dead after an attack or during seems to be acceptable, what's the difference if he's terminated before an attack and no one gets stabbed to death, crushed by a van or ripped apart by a bomb? If these guys had the nerve to face us in open warfare no one would bat an eyelid if they all got shot!
WOT HE SAID 110% {[]
TP clearly suggested secret assassinations on British soil, so death squads had been suggested. How else could it be done?
Do I understand you, Chriscoop, correctly? You want public (in the sense of not being secret or discuised as natural deaths) execution after judges have made a ruling?
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And now we return to regular ranting!
What the F is wrong with people at the station?! I get the train to work every day and I want to scream at the people who 'pace' a moving train at the platform edge in order to get a good seat. Setting aside it makes no difference to where or if you sit, one of these days one of these fck-wits will fall off the platform into the wheels, or worse bump someone else!
The yellow line is there for a reason! Oh I wish I could give them a right good smack!
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
On the news, there is a story of an English lad, who went off to fight for ISIS, he had an
Argument with its leadership and is now in a prison. ...... His parents want our Government
To help " Bring him home " ?
I do feel sorry for his parents but, I'm sorry if you've been in ISIS as a foolish middle-class
Student, fighting for them. Then the UK is no longer your Home, you've turned your back
On it !
Might sound harsh but , this type of treatment, is just what he was fighting for, for others .
So, I'd leave him there, and infact deny him entry back.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
On the news, there is a story of an English lad, who went off to fight for ISIS, he had an
Argument with its leadership and is now in a prison. ...... His parents want our Government
To help " Bring him home " ?
I do feel sorry for his parents but, I'm sorry if you've been in ISIS as a foolish middle-class
Student, fighting for them. Then the UK is no longer your Home, you've turned your back
On it !
Might sound harsh but , this type of treatment, is just what he was fighting for, for others .
So, I'd leave him there, and infact deny him entry back.
In a while ISIS will be militarily beaten in the Middle East. I do wonder if many of them will apply for asylum, and I wonder if Sweden will accept them? They will after all be persecuted and in danger in Syria and Iraq!
On the news, there is a story of an English lad, who went off to fight for ISIS, he had an
Argument with its leadership and is now in a prison. ...... His parents want our Government
To help " Bring him home " ?
I do feel sorry for his parents but, I'm sorry if you've been in ISIS as a foolish middle-class
Student, fighting for them. Then the UK is no longer your Home, you've turned your back
On it !
Might sound harsh but , this type of treatment, is just what he was fighting for, for others .
So, I'd leave him there, and infact deny him entry back.
Wonder how many people he's injured or killed? Let him rot
Comments
It's not racism. If anything those attacking are the racists. They have even perverted their own beliefs to justify their actions according to the majority Muslim community if I'm understanding correctly? Decades ago the IRA hit their first soft target where in London horses & their mounts were blown to bits at basically a concert. There was public outcry followed by two more soft targets followed by an attempt on the Prime Minister over a period of time. We are back in those times of uncertainty & I'd rather have ARV's patrolling the streets so they are there within a matter of minutes to terminate a threat than not have them there. The days of the British Bobby giving a perp' a whack over the head with his cape or a tap with a truncheon are over & if the bastards are wearing anti-stab armour stun guns are not gonna do much! We need trained professionals, armed to the teeth, prepared to take out targets when they get the green light....and for those who say well join up then! ...Donkey trained but his country didn't want him! Deferment is a real bitch!
BMT216A was taken!
I've told you before! We have a royal family and we don't have the climate to grow bananas!
Let's just stop referring to these terrorists as people or citizens as that implies they are innocently going about their lawful business as opposed to a bunch of murderers and enemies of the citizens going about their awful business. No one is suggesting teams of death squads dragging people into the street and killing them or even persecuting members of any religion. I'm suggesting it would be a good idea to have a specialist panel of judges who can hand out a death warrant on a would terrorist after reading the hundreds of pages of intelligence on said person.
Like I've said before, a terrorist shot dead after an attack or during seems to be acceptable, what's the difference if he's terminated before an attack and no one gets stabbed to death, crushed by a van or ripped apart by a bomb? If these guys had the nerve to face us in open warfare no one would bat an eyelid if they all got shot!
Yes, that makes sense
BTW: My name is a tribute to the WWII hero Gunnar Sønsteby. He chose Number 24 as his agent name because Number 13 was taken. True story.
That would be the formula for another religious war and hundreds of thousands of victims.
I understand the anger after those attacks and I know that among those 3000 there are really mean people, but when the head of state decides to terminate a certain group on people based on what they THINK instead of having a trial about what they really DID is just plain wrong!
We can just see in Turkey what happens when the head of state groups enemies of state by his own measures. Do we really have this happen in our society?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
A wise woman recently said: When they go low - we go high.
I am all for stopping those terrorists but we must be very careful not giving up our civil rights and not our way of justice.
As for modern societies not terminating killings - just have a look at Turkey. They have been regarded as 'modern' not many years ago - look what happens there now.
Coming back to the suggestion of deporting those 'one the list'. Even if you would manage to keep them off from our borders, that does not necessarily mean that they don't do their deeds somewhere else.
The UK are blessed by being an island, mainland Europe thas a land access thru Turkey to those states and greek islands are in sight from their borders.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
We shouldn't fall for what hose people really want: A religious war in the west which would involve now modest and not radical groups from all religions.
I understand the outrage, but we should be keen not losing our minds and hearts over all this.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Moderate Muslims suffer also at the hands of these terrorists.
We can't resolve this through diplomacy or political resolve so what does anyone else suggest?
I'm also not sure that not admitting or saying this is a religious or cultural war gives us the higher ground?? What we should be saying is that we are not engaging in a war on race or culture, creed or religion but we are combating TERRORISM that we will not tolerate it. I don't know for sure but after the sas pre-emptively killing three IRA terrorists in Gibraltar to stop a huge bomb killing dozens of innocent people did all the Irish and catholics declare some sort of war? Or did thousands of people suddenly sign up to the IRA?
WOT HE SAID 110% {[]
And papers. I feel all we the public need to know, is that they have been identified by the police
I think one of the aims of these terrorists, is to gain as much publicity as possible, so why give
It too them.
I can still remember the sickening footage of the killers of Lee Rigby spouting their hate filled
Rant, their hands covered in blood.
Just a thought: don't even call them "terrorists"- just call them "murderers"?
I liked the fact that one of the mosques in Manchester refused to bury the Manchester bomber ...
I think the press should try to do that as much as possible, even though there are limits to this.
A great Isis warrior could appear on this thread countering on about Western infidels, 4 and 20 Virgins and the Great Satan, Allah be praised! and the great mod in the sky Barbel would have to concede that such a post would be more appropriate to the name of this thread.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
But as ever, if this happens and it turns personal (which this thread has not, and I do appreciate that- thanks, everyone) we will close it.
TP clearly suggested secret assassinations on British soil, so death squads had been suggested. How else could it be done?
Do I understand you, Chriscoop, correctly? You want public (in the sense of not being secret or discuised as natural deaths) execution after judges have made a ruling?
What the F is wrong with people at the station?! I get the train to work every day and I want to scream at the people who 'pace' a moving train at the platform edge in order to get a good seat. Setting aside it makes no difference to where or if you sit, one of these days one of these fck-wits will fall off the platform into the wheels, or worse bump someone else!
The yellow line is there for a reason! Oh I wish I could give them a right good smack!
Argument with its leadership and is now in a prison. ...... His parents want our Government
To help " Bring him home " ?
I do feel sorry for his parents but, I'm sorry if you've been in ISIS as a foolish middle-class
Student, fighting for them. Then the UK is no longer your Home, you've turned your back
On it !
Might sound harsh but , this type of treatment, is just what he was fighting for, for others .
So, I'd leave him there, and infact deny him entry back.
I'd second that motion.
Wonder how many people he's injured or killed? Let him rot