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I loved the kitchen fight in this. That scene in Sudden Death doesn't hold a candle to this.

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

" I don't listen to hip hop!"

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Love the whole pts, the land rover  sequence is a fantastic
Mini movie.  ajb007/cheers  Although I never noticed ( still don't) that the
Other 00s were supposed to resemble Moore and Lazenby.  ajb007/wink

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The Bond films always reflect the world as it is at the time of filming. In that sense TLD is spot on with the Mujahadeen. The USSR were the bad guys back then (and not all of them).

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So it was ok slapping Dink's rear because noone could take a crystal ball out  and forsee that it's not pc in the 2010?

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Virgil37 wrote:

The Bond films always reflect the world as it is at the time of filming.

Remember this when you criticize again the lighter tone from the Moore age  ajb007/shifty

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Higgins wrote:

So it was ok slapping Dink's rear because noone could take a crystal ball out  and forsee that it's not pc in the 2010?

Exactly.

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I never thought I'd ever say this but .........
I can see Higgins's point .  ajb007/wink  you must use the same criteria to
Judge the films.  ajb007/smile

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Higgins wrote:
Virgil37 wrote:

The Bond films always reflect the world as it is at the time of filming.

Remember this when you criticize again the lighter tone from the Moore age  ajb007/shifty

I meant geopolitics (and otherwise too). Anyway, I love MR.

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What is to say that the Afghans in TLD did not later become part of the Northern Alliance ?

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I never thought I'd ever say this but .........
I can see Higgins's point .  ajb007/wink  you must use the same criteria to
Judge the films.  ajb007/smile

Thank you!  ajb007/biggrin

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The only thing we can know for sure, is that the  Afghans
like classical music.  ajb007/biggrin

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More likely they like young blonde cellist  ajb007/biggrin

I've always wanted to have Christmas in Turkey

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They're deeply spiritual men, .....
These men have taken a supreme vow of celibacy, like their fathers, and their fathers before them..  ajb007/lol

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sniperUK wrote:

What is to say that the Afghans in TLD did not later become part of the Northern Alliance ?

Thank you. ajb007/martini

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As a super dorky side note Ian Fleming sister owned a Stradivarius cello, though I doubt she used it as a mode of transportation.

I've always wanted to have Christmas in Turkey

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Yep, The character in the short story was based on her.  ajb007/wink

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I had no idea. How did she feel about that?

Thunderpussy wrote:

Yep, The character in the short story was based on her.  ajb007/wink

I've always wanted to have Christmas in Turkey

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And now the OCD pros & cons:

Pros:
Bond unpacks and repacks his sniper rifle very precisely.
Bond is very careful not to touch the walls in the men's room stall with his hands.
Bond stacks the loads of opium very neatly.

Cons:
Many things blow up during the course of the film leaving many messes that we never get to see cleaned up.

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To be honest I don't know, I learnt it here on AJB, but Fleming
Gave the cello girl in the book, the same name.

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A common theme throughout the Cold War has been the desire of independence from third-world countries.  Often times, the West had mistaken a desire for independence to be a desire to fight the Cold War on the side of capitalism. 

At the time, the Soviets were the intruders and the Americans were helping them become more autonomous.  But after the Cold War, with constant American intervention, Americans have become the new intruders.  I'm not going to make comment on whether modern-day western intervention in the middle-east is good or bad, but just say that it's been more of a shift of perception than actual politics.

The west secretly funded the Muhjadeen on a mutual agreement that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".  If the west decided to take an ideological spin and claim the Taliban to be capitalist heroes, that's on them.

That said, do you just let USSR take over Afghanistan?  No, of course not.

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Before this gets more political than it already is may I remind everyone here that this is a TLD thread, and not a discussion on Middle Eastern Geo-politics. A few references or comments is one thing, but let's keep the focus where it should be, okay? ajb007/cheers

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I agree.  I said all that I needed to say on the Soviet-Afghan War, and yeah, we should focus on the other aspects of the movie.

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Absolutely_Cart wrote:

I agree.  I said all that I needed to say on the Soviet-Afghan War, and yeah, we should focus on the other aspects of the movie.

No, I don't mean we can't talk about that aspect, it just felt like maybe we were headed to discussion JUST about Afghanistan.

Here's one: did Kamran Shah & his buddies actually have ammunition on them at the music hall at the end? Or was I seeing things...? ajb007/insane

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Higgins wrote:

And the "good Taliban" are what they are - can change the term - cant change the group.

So by your rationale Raiders is laughable too for having the Nazis as the bad guys now that we're all chums with the Germans?

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Like Chrisisall said, lets leave the Politics out of this Discussion  ajb007/martini

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger