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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    right guys, i'm in need of some help with regards some milling.

    i'm just looking into doing a job somewhere next year and part of it entales milling some fine v shaped grooves.

    i know you can purchase all sorts of cutters, indexable, suitable for back and front chamfer milling etc, but these things are expensive.

    so question is, has anyone here used a spot/centre drill to mill v slots, and what kind of result does it give?

    i really think i'm gonna have to bite the bullet on this one and just buy a rather expensive cutter, but if anyone else has any ingenius ideas to do it cheaper, please let me know.

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  • JamsterJamster ukPosts: 54MI6 Agent
    Ive thought about the same thing. Have you considered using a normal endmill and holding the work peice/milling head or table at a 45 degree angle?
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Jamster wrote:
    Ive thought about the same thing. Have you considered using a normal endmill and holding the work peice/milling head or table at a 45 degree angle?

    first port of call but the workpiece is too large in diameter for this to be an option. the head needs to stay vertical i'm afraid.
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  • JamsterJamster ukPosts: 54MI6 Agent
    The only other thing I could think of would be a v cutter for a router. Would be cheap, maybe a fiver but I dont think it would give a particularly good finish, if in fact it would be up to cutting metal.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    nah, router bits are made for 30k rpm plus, not 3k rpm max millers.

    i think i should be ok with a LS endmill and a bit of simple calculating.
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  • joanne2010joanne2010 Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    could anyone pls tell me the value of a 1965 james bond annual?
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    joanne2010 wrote:
    could anyone pls tell me the value of a 1965 james bond annual?

    Last time I saw one which went for £10GBP on eBay.

    But as stated many times before, value is as much as someone is willing/ready to pay for the item -{
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  • JamsterJamster ukPosts: 54MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    nah, router bits are made for 30k rpm plus, not 3k rpm max millers.

    i think i should be ok with a LS endmill and a bit of simple calculating.

    I was messing around with some stuff at the weekend and had a go milling with a centre drill, as per your suggestion. I have a lathe with a vertical slide so not ideal for that sorta thing but was actually pretty impressed with the result. Tried a 1/8 and 1/4 centre drill and did a criss cross pattern. Could have done with doing a slower pass but looked pretty good. Not entirely unlike the pattern on the GG lighter.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Jamster wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    nah, router bits are made for 30k rpm plus, not 3k rpm max millers.

    i think i should be ok with a LS endmill and a bit of simple calculating.

    I was messing around with some stuff at the weekend and had a go milling with a centre drill, as per your suggestion. I have a lathe with a vertical slide so not ideal for that sorta thing but was actually pretty impressed with the result. Tried a 1/8 and 1/4 centre drill and did a criss cross pattern. Could have done with doing a slower pass but looked pretty good. Not entirely unlike the pattern on the GG lighter.

    nice one, what material was you using?

    as a sideline bit of advice to everyone out there;

    if you find a can of enamel spray paint that says quick drying on it, don't use it, its shyte. 16 hours later and its still tacky. fecking plasti-kote.
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  • bondpropfanbondpropfan Southern UKPosts: 288MI6 Agent
    minigeff

    as a sideline bit of advice to everyone out there;

    if you find a can of enamel spray paint that says quick drying on it, don't use it, its shyte. 16 hours later and its still tacky. fecking plasti-kote.

    i'M WITH YOU ON THAT ONE... 8-)
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:
    as a sideline bit of advice to everyone out there;

    if you find a can of enamel spray paint that says quick drying on it, don't use it, its shyte. 16 hours later and its still tacky. fecking plasti-kote.

    Care to share us the brand which you were using, Plasti-Kote perhaps or Maston... ?

    EDIT: my bad, did not read your post thoroughly...Plasti-Kote -{
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  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    fecking plasti-kote

    Could be a clue there Teppo :))

    Your edit and my post crossed, even funnier :D
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    fecking plasti-kote

    Could be a clue there Teppo :))

    Andy, my mistake..didn't recognize the brand ;)
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    normally i get my paints made for me, or at a push i'll resort to a can of halfords (UK car maintenance retailer). but when i'm really stuck i'll resort to using some modelling spray. i've had good results with humbrol's range, and tamiya as well. but i can honestly say that although the finish is acceptable, the drying times of plasti-kote suck big time.

    the plasti-kote paint itself is really thick in comparison to cellulose, the coats go on thick and fast and its too much. runs are pretty much guaranteed, and the thick paint clogs the nozzle quick and can cause spattering.

    next time i'm wondering whether to use it, or wait til i get home and can dig out a can of humbrol, i'll make sure i don't rush myself. if i'd have waited, i coulda used the humbrol this morning and it'd be pretty much touch dry by now. instead i'm still waiting for this enamel plati-crap to cure, and its now 17 hours after the paint went on.

    the can states 3 hours. my fecking arse.
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  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    I'm the same Jeff, stick to good quality modelling paints, it brings tears to the eyes when you've spent countless hours reproducing something only for it to be ruined in 10 secs by using off the shelf crap paint. :(
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    I used to work in paint industry several years at beginning of the millenium and i have to say those ready canned enamel sprays haven't change much since then as enamel paints viscosity is quite high and manufacturers still use those universal nozzles for spray cans. We used to fill our own spray cans and mix our paints at the company
    where i worked and never had problems with the drying times.
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    just had a look at plasti-crap's website, (sad git that i am) and lo n behold, the site states the enamel spray should be 'thoroughly dry in 24hrs', but the can says 3. :s

    i'll give it 24hrs and if its still tacky i'll file it away in the big round black file and start again.
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  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    edited January 2011
    minigeff wrote:
    just had a look at plasti-crap's website, (sad git that i am) and lo n behold, the site states the enamel spray should be 'thoroughly dry in 24hrs', but the can says 3. :s

    i'll give it 24hrs and if its still tacky i'll file it away in the big round black file and start again.


    And of course manufacturer appeals to the thickness of sprayed layers...
    Companies change, but advertising n marketing methods stays the same :o :D

    Usually those Very-Quick-Dry products are misleading with drying times and most of the ready spray cans have small text like:

    final hardness after 24hours depending on ventilation, temperature of the air, relative humidity of the air and thickness of the paint film/layer.
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    Singe, you shouldn't be spraying your winkie with that stuff anyway :v
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    Singe, you shouldn't be spraying your winkie with that stuff anyway :v

    ...final hardness, i assume :D
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    If he is very lucky :D
  • JamsterJamster ukPosts: 54MI6 Agent
    minigeff wrote:

    nice one, what material was you using?

    Sorry for the late reply. just some brass I had. Couple of pics. The surface of the brass bar that I used for the 1/4 centre drill already had been used for a trial on something else.




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  • bondpropfanbondpropfan Southern UKPosts: 288MI6 Agent
    hi
    could any one help me develop some items that need some electronic circuits added, i.e a contact of someone that can make up some items incorporating leds etc.

    cheers

    paul
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,328MI6 Agent
    So, the Omega. Quartz = good or bad? I'm looking at a mid-size (2223.80.00) but the price spread I'm seeing online is worrisome. Which am I avoiding, and which am I looking for? Thanks in advance.
  • MILKBONEMILKBONE MICHIGANPosts: 65MI6 Agent
    So, the Omega. Quartz = good or bad? I'm looking at a mid-size (2223.80.00) but the price spread I'm seeing online is worrisome. Which am I avoiding, and which am I looking for? Thanks in advance.

    I've always preferred a Quartz movement and so I purchased the full size Quartz model (2221.80.00) on June 6, 2011 as my everyday watch, and I'm more then pleased.

    I too noticed a large variance in prices on the internet but decided it was in my best interest to buy from an OMEGA dealer, went to the OMEGA web site and located an authorized dealer within a few miles of my house. List was $2200.00 jeweler sold to me for $1800.00 plus tax.

    Inquired about service routine, Battery life is 2-3 years at which time watch should be sent to Omega for cleaning, replace battery and all seals. Authorized dealer handles all shipping etc., bring it to where you bought it and they send it to Omega. I was told the cost for this service is currently $75.00 and your watch will be gone for about a month.

    AND here's my Watch:

    My_Omega.jpg
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,328MI6 Agent
    Wow, thank you for the thorough response!
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    MILKBONE wrote:
    So, the Omega. Quartz = good or bad? I'm looking at a mid-size (2223.80.00) but the price spread I'm seeing online is worrisome. Which am I avoiding, and which am I looking for? Thanks in advance.
    Inquired about service routine, Battery life is 2-3 years at which time watch should be sent to Omega for cleaning, replace battery and all seals. Authorized dealer handles all shipping etc., bring it to where you bought it and they send it to Omega. I was told the cost for this service is currently $75.00 and your watch will be gone for about a month.

    jesus christ! i had to wait 8 weeks and pay about £300 for mine. although its the chronometer version so i guess thats why. bit of a difference all the same though.

    tbh if I had the quartz i'd take it to a local reputable horologist. if its just a battery and seal change i wouldn't bother sending it back to omega.
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    hi there guys,

    i'm in the process of sourcing some goodies for the workshop, namely a mini lathe and mill.

    has anyone got experience with this type of baby kit? if so i'm in need of some advice from someone with some in-depth knowledge of working with these bits of kit. i'm more used to bigger stuff ya see.

    so if anyone can help out, please get in touch


    MG
    ps, send me an email, not a pm as my little box is full (ooh er missus)
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    Must be all that crap you eat :D
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    aint a mini lathe the same as a big one, back when I was a gunsmith our lathe was the same :s never used a mill :o well only for cutting off logs :D
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