I think this was already known, but here are the two difference between the two henleys
Interesting, didn't know this, but had seen a difference with the one pictured on their website. So is it known which one is SA ??
The one on the right.
Thanks for the info -{ Although the stupid thing is, while I have the SA one, I actually hoping to receive the old season version as I prefer the detailing of that one on the left! Ho-hum... 8-)
I received my N.Peal sweater today. I took an XS. I am 5 10, 145lbs, and 30” waist.
I paired it with the Rag and Bone Henley and jeans, a navy shirt and jeans, a grey shirt and jeans, as well as a dress shirt and chinos for a bit more dressy.
Fit is spot on for me and I don’t find the shoulder patches to be abnormally large personally. Like others have said, it’s extremely soft and well made. I personally love the elbow patches and the cuff details.
Hope this helps in some way.
It looks great on you, Harris! I love my medium. Like you said it is very soft and comfortable, and I am not really concerned with the size of the patches .
Spot On guys , Npeal's communication to me has been 1st class and they are very understanding in the bond world.
At the end of the day they are a luxury brand and all of their garments i have and i have a fair few ) are superb.
We all have a choice and opinions but after what i just received in my opinion thats why I like them.
Could of easily said just send back for a refund but instead they sent me this - I will now take them up on this offer {[]
Thank-you for your enquiry regarding our Army Sweater.
The patch size for all sweaters is the exact same as worn by James Bond in No Time To Die. During filming Bond wore a size Large and the patch finished at the 3rd rib across the neck – which can be seen in the teaser poster for the film.
As we have used the same patch for all sizes it extends further across the neck than is appears in the teaser image. We apologise with this variation in appearance.
We will be willing to modify a sweater on your behalf and replace the one that you have bought, should you wish.
Sounds good Chris, is this a complimentary offer or does it involve an additional cost? If it's the former, then N Peal might be about to be inundated with similar requests.
Personally might reconsider buying the sweater if this is offered to all, though I'm still not entirely sure about the drawstrings in the collar (in general, not their SA length).
I think the drawstring is another one-size-fits-all part of the design, just like the shoulder patch. That's why it looks longer on the small and medium. The "shorter" SA length is just a function of Craig wearing a larger size.
Also in terms of the drawstring color, I think a lot of people are going off the poster. I'd be careful of that since the image was heavily Photoshopped. It could well be that some poster designer thought the image worked better if the drawstring matched the shoulder patch.
I am not saying that's the case; just that it's a strong possibility IMO.
I received my N.Peal sweater today. I took an XS. I am 5 10, 145lbs, and 30” waist.
I paired it with the Rag and Bone Henley and jeans, a navy shirt and jeans, a grey shirt and jeans, as well as a dress shirt and chinos for a bit more dressy.
Fit is spot on for me and I don’t find the shoulder patches to be abnormally large personally. Like others have said, it’s extremely soft and well made. I personally love the elbow patches and the cuff details.
I received my N.Peal sweater today. I took an XS. I am 5 10, 145lbs, and 30” waist.
I paired it with the Rag and Bone Henley and jeans, a navy shirt and jeans, a grey shirt and jeans, as well as a dress shirt and chinos for a bit more dressy.
Fit is spot on for me and I don’t find the shoulder patches to be abnormally large personally. Like others have said, it’s extremely soft and well made. I personally love the elbow patches and the cuff details.
Hope this helps in some way.
Thanks for sharing.
I must say these photos and the chat have convinced me not to part with my cash for one.
It looks too 'cosplay' and I can't see an occasion where I could wear that sweater and not feel too conspicuous in it.
I might look for a dupe.
I think I agree with you on this. Looks great on some people but you just can’t wear it in the UK without looking like...
A) ex-military a Bond cosplay
C) a Tesco security guard )
Respect to anyone who can pull this off on a day-to-day basis but I will not be parting with my cash
Also in terms of the drawstring color, I think a lot of people are going off the poster. I'd be careful of that since the image was heavily Photoshopped. It could well be that some poster designer thought the image worked better if the drawstring matched the shoulder patch.
I am not saying that's the case; just that it's a strong possibility IMO.
Also at the risk of riding a dead horse: the sweater the N.Peal model wears on the boat still has also a dark (black?) drawstring. I guess N.Peal changed this later for the batch production in order that the drawstring is not so prominent. In the end they are a premium fashion brand and not a prop manufacturer - and that is a good thing.
The strange looking patches on some sizes are a different matter.
Also in terms of the drawstring color, I think a lot of people are going off the poster. I'd be careful of that since the image was heavily Photoshopped. It could well be that some poster designer thought the image worked better if the drawstring matched the shoulder patch.
I am not saying that's the case; just that it's a strong possibility IMO.
Also at the risk of riding a dead horse: the sweater the N.Peal model wears on the boat still has also a dark (black?) drawstring. I guess N.Peal changed this later for the batch production in order that the drawstring is not so prominent. In the end they are a premium fashion brand and not a prop manufacturer - and that is a good thing.
The strange looking patches on some sizes are a different matter.
It looks the same blue as the sweater to me in this picture.
Also in terms of the drawstring color, I think a lot of people are going off the poster. I'd be careful of that since the image was heavily Photoshopped. It could well be that some poster designer thought the image worked better if the drawstring matched the shoulder patch.
I am not saying that's the case; just that it's a strong possibility IMO.
Also at the risk of riding a dead horse: the sweater the N.Peal model wears on the boat still has also a dark (black?) drawstring. I guess N.Peal changed this later for the batch production in order that the drawstring is not so prominent. In the end they are a premium fashion brand and not a prop manufacturer - and that is a good thing.
The strange looking patches on some sizes are a different matter.
It looks the same blue as the sweater to me in this picture.
chriscollins007North Somerset , England Posts: 1,155MI6 Agent
No additional cost its only down to the xS and s sizes where the issues have arise, they understand that and rather me refund it they are looking at how they can make it right.
simple as that.
Spot On guys , Npeal's communication to me has been 1st class and they are very understanding in the bond world.
At the end of the day they are a luxury brand and all of their garments i have and i have a fair few ) are superb.
We all have a choice and opinions but after what i just received in my opinion thats why I like them.
Could of easily said just send back for a refund but instead they sent me this - I will now take them up on this offer {[]
Thank-you for your enquiry regarding our Army Sweater.
The patch size for all sweaters is the exact same as worn by James Bond in No Time To Die. During filming Bond wore a size Large and the patch finished at the 3rd rib across the neck – which can be seen in the teaser poster for the film.
As we have used the same patch for all sizes it extends further across the neck than is appears in the teaser image. We apologise with this variation in appearance.
We will be willing to modify a sweater on your behalf and replace the one that you have bought, should you wish.
Sounds good Chris, is this a complimentary offer or does it involve an additional cost? If it's the former, then N Peal might be about to be inundated with similar requests.
Personally might reconsider buying the sweater if this is offered to all, though I'm still not entirely sure about the drawstrings in the collar (in general, not their SA length).
I've been in contact with them and can report the same. That's fantastic customer service on their part. So much so that I ended up picking up a couple other sweaters that I had my eye on, and will gladly pick up a couple other navy/army sweaters down the line. Here's hoping they expand their line to more colors as well.
I received my N.Peal sweater today. I took an XS. I am 5 10, 145lbs, and 30” waist.
I paired it with the Rag and Bone Henley and jeans, a navy shirt and jeans, a grey shirt and jeans, as well as a dress shirt and chinos for a bit more dressy.
Fit is spot on for me and I don’t find the shoulder patches to be abnormally large personally. Like others have said, it’s extremely soft and well made. I personally love the elbow patches and the cuff details.
I received my N.Peal sweater today. I took an XS. I am 5 10, 145lbs, and 30” waist.
I paired it with the Rag and Bone Henley and jeans, a navy shirt and jeans, a grey shirt and jeans, as well as a dress shirt and chinos for a bit more dressy.
Fit is spot on for me and I don’t find the shoulder patches to be abnormally large personally. Like others have said, it’s extremely soft and well made. I personally love the elbow patches and the cuff details.
Hope this helps in some way.
Thanks for sharing.
I must say these photos and the chat have convinced me not to part with my cash for one.
It looks too 'cosplay' and I can't see an occasion where I could wear that sweater and not feel too conspicuous in it.
I might look for a dupe.
I think I agree with you on this. Looks great on some people but you just can’t wear it in the UK without looking like...
A) ex-military a Bond cosplay
C) a Tesco security guard )
Respect to anyone who can pull this off on a day-to-day basis but I will not be parting with my cash
I know I've already said I think the Barbour Graham unlined jacket is the screen accurate one,
the one that appears to be sold out with a couple extra buttons on the collar.
I will admit that my choice is not 100% without bias though.
I'm hoping it's not the "washed" version because I think it looks awful.
It looks like it's been waxed, oiled, washed, rewashed and dried one too many times.
looks like a normal jacket to me (with 'normal' I mean not awful). It has a used look for sure but this would match with the rest of the outfit. TF Jeans are washed, the TB Shirt looks like it was washed several times too and the Sperrys he wear are far away from new, it would make sense to wear the washed-version except for the wax. Its a cool and relaxed outfit and the unlined/non-waxed version would propably look too noble combined with these, but who knows, the jacket is still a huge questionmark. I'm a fan of these used/sloppy-outfits, I also like the enjoying-death-outfit so I hope for the washed-version.
I received my N.Peal sweater today. I took an XS. I am 5 10, 145lbs, and 30” waist.
I paired it with the Rag and Bone Henley and jeans, a navy shirt and jeans, a grey shirt and jeans, as well as a dress shirt and chinos for a bit more dressy.
Fit is spot on for me and I don’t find the shoulder patches to be abnormally large personally. Like others have said, it’s extremely soft and well made. I personally love the elbow patches and the cuff details.
Hope this helps in some way.
It looks great on you, Harris! I love my medium. Like you said it is very soft and comfortable, and I am not really concerned with the size of the patches .
I must say these photos and the chat have convinced me not to part with my cash for one.
It looks too 'cosplay' and I can't see an occasion where I could wear that sweater and not feel too conspicuous in it.
I might look for a dupe.
I think I agree with you on this. Looks great on some people but you just can’t wear it in the UK without looking like...
A) ex-military a Bond cosplay
C) a Tesco security guard )
Respect to anyone who can pull this off on a day-to-day basis but I will not be parting with my cash
looks like a normal jacket to me (with 'normal' I mean not awful). It has a used look for sure but this would match with the rest of the outfit. TF Jeans are washed, the TB Shirt looks like it was washed several times too and the Sperrys he wear are far away from new, it would make sense to wear the washed-version except for the wax. Its a cool and relaxed outfit and the unlined/non-waxed version would propably look too noble combined with these, but who knows, the jacket is still a huge questionmark. I'm fan a of these used/sloppy-outfits, I also like the complete enjoying-death-outfit so I hope for the washed-version :>
You have a point. And I really like the Skyfall Barbour, and the Levi's Menlo. I'm just having a hard time liking this one. In some pictures it looks okay, but in others it looks like it has oil stains all over it. I think that bothers me the most.
Also at the risk of riding a dead horse: the sweater the N.Peal model wears on the boat still has also a dark (black?) drawstring. I guess N.Peal changed this later for the batch production in order that the drawstring is not so prominent. In the end they are a premium fashion brand and not a prop manufacturer - and that is a good thing.
The strange looking patches on some sizes are a different matter.
It looks the same blue as the sweater to me in this picture.
To b fair to N Peal the patches even look dodgy in the picture above on the model where they scrunch up as though there is an excess of suede material.
So just to clarify, beginning with the Large, the patches are very close to screen accurate? or do you have to go to an XL for them to look right as they are now? Thanks,
KH
Sadly, for me, the N Peal didn't work out. While they nailed the presentation of the sweater with the 007 branding, which lent itself to a very pleasant unboxing, the sweater itself was a big disappointment for me. The details are superb and the quality is fantastic, but as soon as I put it on, it felt wrong. The shoulders were bunching up in the front, and the front neckline was distorted (bowing upward toward my neck) and quite uncomfortable. Here's a pic to highlight the issue -
This is a size Small, and I typically wear a Medium/48IT with a 39" chest and 31" waist. I haven't seen anyone else comment on this issue, and I'm not sure if it's due to the shoulder patch material drifting so far into the neckline, but this sweater just didn't tick all the boxes for me. So sadly, it's on its' way back to N Peal.
So just to clarify, beginning with the Large, the patches are very close to screen accurate? or do you have to go to an XL for them to look right as they are now? Thanks,
KH
Well, according to N Peal, Craig is a large. Take that for what it's worth. However, chances are that he's not a stock large, but rather "close to a large," since the hero sweaters for the film were most likely made to his specs.
With that in mind, the mass produced patches are, as some have pointed out, larger than what was used for Craig's sweaters. Keep in mind that they were made to fit an XXL to XXS range, and erred on the larger side.
So unless you specially order something, none of them are screen accurate. However, the most PROPORTIONAL ones would be in the XL to XXL sizes. Hard to say which is better between the two, since we haven't seen any XXL ones posted here to my knowledge.
Ultimately though, none of that matters if they're too big on you. But if you're on the fence, I'd go with the bigger size.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Look at how louche the shoulders are on Craig. For a more screen accurate look, size up and tailor down.
Sadly, for me, the N Peal didn't work out. While they nailed the presentation of the sweater with the 007 branding, which lent itself to a very pleasant unboxing, the sweater itself was a big disappointment for me. The details are superb and the quality is fantastic, but as soon as I put it on, it felt wrong. The shoulders were bunching up in the front, and the front neckline was distorted (bowing upward toward my neck) and quite uncomfortable. Here's a pic to highlight the issue -
This is a size Small, and I typically wear a Medium/48IT with a 39" chest and 31" waist. I haven't seen anyone else comment on this issue, and I'm not sure if it's due to the shoulder patch material drifting so far into the neckline, but this sweater just didn't tick all the boxes for me. So sadly, it's on its' way back to N Peal....
Kind regards,
Craig
100% in agreement - I just expressed it as ‘patches too big’ but it gave me exactly the same issues - just a weird uncomfortable fit right there ... and well put with the neckline description - I felt that it needed to dip an inch or so in the front and it would have been fine, but as produced it was just odd ...
I'm a big fan of a movie from 1985 called Remo Williams the Adventure Begins. It was an action adventure based on a series of novels about a former cop who becomes a kind of "blunt instrument" after he is taught a mythical martial art by an eccentric old Korean. one of the movie poster tag lines was "move over James Bond, there's a new kind hero in town"...
in the final action sequence of the film Remo (played by Fred Ward) wears a military jumper... looked like this:
Even for a 1985 fit, this looks pretty bad ass... I would not be surprised if this specific costume from the movie was a source of inspiration for the NTTD jumper...
I will admit that N. Peal does need to fix this sweater, especially for the price they are asking. I have yet to see a single picture on here of someone wearing the retail version that makes me want to go out and buy one.
If I was stuck with one and couldn't return it, I would be tempted to use a seam-ripper and simply take the shoulder patches off completely and toss them in the trash can. I bet the sweater would look better without them.
I'm a big fan of a movie from 1985 called Remo Williams the Adventure Begins. It was an action adventure based on a series of novels about a former cop who becomes a kind of "blunt instrument" after he is taught a mythical martial art by an eccentric old Korean. one of the movie poster tag lines was "move over James Bond, there's a new kind hero in town"...
in the final action sequence of the film Remo (played by Fred Ward) wears a military jumper... looked like this:
Even for a 1985 fit, this looks pretty bad ass... I would not be surprised if this specific costume from the movie was a source of inspiration for the NTTD jumper...
Maybe... but it's a common design that's even in another Bond film:
I was introducing the older Bond films to my wife these last few weeks, and when we got to For Your Eyes Only, the naval officers at the start of the film are all decked out in a very similar sweater, down to the color. I'm guessing this surprises nobody from the UK.
I'd wager the only major difference would be the collar, but notice how the shoulder patches bunch up like how many describe the N Peal variant. The trimmer the fit, the more apparent it looks, I'd imagine.
Sadly, for me, the N Peal didn't work out. While they nailed the presentation of the sweater with the 007 branding, which lent itself to a very pleasant unboxing, the sweater itself was a big disappointment for me. The details are superb and the quality is fantastic, but as soon as I put it on, it felt wrong. The shoulders were bunching up in the front, and the front neckline was distorted (bowing upward toward my neck) and quite uncomfortable. Here's a pic to highlight the issue -
This is a size Small, and I typically wear a Medium/48IT with a 39" chest and 31" waist. I haven't seen anyone else comment on this issue, and I'm not sure if it's due to the shoulder patch material drifting so far into the neckline, but this sweater just didn't tick all the boxes for me. So sadly, it's on its' way back to N Peal.
Kind regards,
Craig
How are the sleeves looking like?
Maybe you should go one more size down?
Sadly, for me, the N Peal didn't work out. While they nailed the presentation of the sweater with the 007 branding, which lent itself to a very pleasant unboxing, the sweater itself was a big disappointment for me. The details are superb and the quality is fantastic, but as soon as I put it on, it felt wrong. The shoulders were bunching up in the front, and the front neckline was distorted (bowing upward toward my neck) and quite uncomfortable. Here's a pic to
This is a size Small, and I typically wear a Medium/48IT with a 39" chest and 31" waist. I haven't seen anyone else comment on this issue, and I'm not sure if it's due to the shoulder patch material drifting so far into the neckline, but this sweater just didn't tick all the boxes for me. So sadly, it's on its' way back to N Peal.
Kind regards,
Craig
mate save yourself £300 and buy a real naval jumper and put a lace through the neck like we did. Npeal have got this horribly wrong
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Thanks for the info -{ Although the stupid thing is, while I have the SA one, I actually hoping to receive the old season version as I prefer the detailing of that one on the left! Ho-hum... 8-)
Sounds good Chris, is this a complimentary offer or does it involve an additional cost? If it's the former, then N Peal might be about to be inundated with similar requests.
Personally might reconsider buying the sweater if this is offered to all, though I'm still not entirely sure about the drawstrings in the collar (in general, not their SA length).
Also in terms of the drawstring color, I think a lot of people are going off the poster. I'd be careful of that since the image was heavily Photoshopped. It could well be that some poster designer thought the image worked better if the drawstring matched the shoulder patch.
I am not saying that's the case; just that it's a strong possibility IMO.
I think I agree with you on this. Looks great on some people but you just can’t wear it in the UK without looking like...
A) ex-military
C) a Tesco security guard
Respect to anyone who can pull this off on a day-to-day basis but I will not be parting with my cash
Also at the risk of riding a dead horse: the sweater the N.Peal model wears on the boat still has also a dark (black?) drawstring. I guess N.Peal changed this later for the batch production in order that the drawstring is not so prominent. In the end they are a premium fashion brand and not a prop manufacturer - and that is a good thing.
The strange looking patches on some sizes are a different matter.
It looks the same blue as the sweater to me in this picture.
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simple as that.
YES! Tesco security guard. Haha.
the one that appears to be sold out with a couple extra buttons on the collar.
I will admit that my choice is not 100% without bias though.
I'm hoping it's not the "washed" version because I think it looks awful.
It looks like it's been waxed, oiled, washed, rewashed and dried one too many times.
Oh god, now I can't unsee that...
You have a point. And I really like the Skyfall Barbour, and the Levi's Menlo. I'm just having a hard time liking this one. In some pictures it looks okay, but in others it looks like it has oil stains all over it. I think that bothers me the most.
To b fair to N Peal the patches even look dodgy in the picture above on the model where they scrunch up as though there is an excess of suede material.
KH
This is a size Small, and I typically wear a Medium/48IT with a 39" chest and 31" waist. I haven't seen anyone else comment on this issue, and I'm not sure if it's due to the shoulder patch material drifting so far into the neckline, but this sweater just didn't tick all the boxes for me. So sadly, it's on its' way back to N Peal.
Kind regards,
Craig
Well, according to N Peal, Craig is a large. Take that for what it's worth. However, chances are that he's not a stock large, but rather "close to a large," since the hero sweaters for the film were most likely made to his specs.
With that in mind, the mass produced patches are, as some have pointed out, larger than what was used for Craig's sweaters. Keep in mind that they were made to fit an XXL to XXS range, and erred on the larger side.
So unless you specially order something, none of them are screen accurate. However, the most PROPORTIONAL ones would be in the XL to XXL sizes. Hard to say which is better between the two, since we haven't seen any XXL ones posted here to my knowledge.
Ultimately though, none of that matters if they're too big on you. But if you're on the fence, I'd go with the bigger size.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Look at how louche the shoulders are on Craig. For a more screen accurate look, size up and tailor down.
in the final action sequence of the film Remo (played by Fred Ward) wears a military jumper... looked like this:
Even for a 1985 fit, this looks pretty bad ass... I would not be surprised if this specific costume from the movie was a source of inspiration for the NTTD jumper...
I will admit that N. Peal does need to fix this sweater, especially for the price they are asking. I have yet to see a single picture on here of someone wearing the retail version that makes me want to go out and buy one.
If I was stuck with one and couldn't return it, I would be tempted to use a seam-ripper and simply take the shoulder patches off completely and toss them in the trash can. I bet the sweater would look better without them.
Well, they're willing to fix it for dissatisfied customers, so that's all that matters right now.
Maybe... but it's a common design that's even in another Bond film:
I was introducing the older Bond films to my wife these last few weeks, and when we got to For Your Eyes Only, the naval officers at the start of the film are all decked out in a very similar sweater, down to the color. I'm guessing this surprises nobody from the UK.
I'd wager the only major difference would be the collar, but notice how the shoulder patches bunch up like how many describe the N Peal variant. The trimmer the fit, the more apparent it looks, I'd imagine.
How are the sleeves looking like?
Maybe you should go one more size down?
mate save yourself £300 and buy a real naval jumper and put a lace through the neck like we did. Npeal have got this horribly wrong