Are you seriously suggesting sexual misconduct against women isn't a problem and it's all made up by tabloids? Tabloids have benefited from these revelations and in some instances the #MeToo movement has gone too far. But let's not fool ourselves and imagine sexual misconduct (in many cases a very nice term for rape) isn't a real problem, and #MeToo has brought some of it to light.
I think the ecoterrorism idea can work. I guess there is a danger of giving the impression pollution isn't a big problem or that all eco-activists are terrorists, but any competent script can avoid those traps. It would be easy for a villain to paint himself as an environmentalist and even getting help from real environmentalists to reach his goals. This theme was touched upon in QoS, though.
Strange that they flew into the southern part of the island when most of the important Bond locales are in the north...
The airport at Ocho Rios (Ian Fleming International) doesn't have nearly a long enough runway to accommodate an A340. Kingston is closer to GoldenEye than Montego Bay and those two are the only Jamaican airports that an A340 could safely land at.
So anyone want to be bold or foolish enough to make a final prediction what the title is?
I am going to predict...
DEATH TO SPIES
The Property Of A Lady because of the #metoo rumours.
But I have a horrible feeling it will be "007", I really hope that won't happen.
The Garden Of Death is my #1 wish, but I doubt it will happen, as no Japan location rumours.
The Garden Of Death? Hmm... I guess it's better than 007 In New York!
I quite like
Agent For Life
In other words Bond can never leave the service. He's always an agent for life. It could work within the context of Bond 25 as there's been a suggestion the plot involves Bond SPOILER NOT SHOWN. Well I won't mention it but it's out there on the internet if you knew where to look. Anyway, AGENT FOR LIFE could work within that context.
I guess if there's some mention of the plot outline at the 'reveal' the actual title may make perfect sense. Skyfall didn't make immediate sense but when we found out the title referred to Bond's old home - it made sense!
Well excitement builds at last. And soon some of the supposition will be over. I'm also hoping for a return to a Bond title that's just not one word, and David Arnold hopefully coming back to do the score, but I think we won't know that for some time yet.
Wow, finally a word from Kinnear. So he does appear to be in it. It answers one question, if Kinnear is in Bond25, he is clearly not in Jamaica, so maybe not all the cast will be there.
Wow, finally a word from Kinnear. So he does appear to be in it. It answers one question, if Kinnear is in Bond25, he is clearly not in Jamaica, so maybe not all the cast will be there.
Was he present for past press conferences? I honestly cant remember (edit - he was)
Also wasn't that festival 12th and 14th April??? Quickly googled it hence interview maybe over a week old??? Therefore does not rule him out being in Jamaica
So for title predictions we have, amongst the Fleming- related ones:
Shatterhand
Property of a Lady
Garden of Death
Would it be too much to ask for Risico? I think it has a mystery which could be nicely explained (as the short story does) which could make it appealing. And let’s not forget The Hildebrand Rarity - albeit the jokey reference in Spectre - is also a great title.
My money’s on some variation of Shatterhand (but then again I’m the worst gambler ever).
I think I’d like something different to those Fleming ones; they’re not great.
The one I’d really like would be Carte Blanche. I think that’s a perfect Bond title. A fan on the net came up with ‘Double Or Nothing’ which I’m very fond of: has good relevance to Bond’s status too.
I would expect 007.com will have it; I’m pretty sure they did last time.
Actually maybe not: there’s no mention of it on there. Bit rubbish. The YouTube channel at least has a ‘Bond 25’ banner so that seems the best bet.
So for title predictions we have, amongst the Fleming- related ones:
Shatterhand
Property of a Lady
Garden of Death
Would it be too much to ask for Risico? I think it has a mystery which could be nicely explained (as the short story does) which could make it appealing. And let’s not forget The Hildebrand Rarity - albeit the jokey reference in Spectre - is also a great title.
My money’s on some variation of Shatterhand (but then again I’m the worst gambler ever).
I prefer to have the respective 'The' in front of Garden and Property but I'd still be more than happy if not.
As for Risico, I'd like it to be used, but not yet, as I wouldn't want 3 one-word titles in a row.
And as for The Hildebrand Rarity, I like it, but I think it now has no chance because of the reference in SP.
I like The Death Collector, but I prefer The Garden Of Death and it's either one or the other right?
Not keen on Shatterhand as a title, but I'd still be excited because of the garden of death being included possibilities.
Eclipse is just uncreative IMO. It's a nice word lol but it's just that, a word, and it's not like it's a rare word. However, having the word Eclipse in a longer title would be fine and I wouldn't be surprised if this happens.
But overall, given the recent rumours, I think The Property Of A Lady is a good guess.
Or it could be something completely new that nobody has said.
I find it hard to believe the title won't be revealed. Hopefully that is inaccurate reporting. 8-)
With a few short hours to go, some musings about the title....
SHAKEN NOT STIRRED - probably my fave choice but might work better with a new Bond actor in Bond 26. It's an iconic phrase associated with Bond.
DEATH TO SPIES - which I mentioned in a previous post - and could be a realistic choice given the phrase was used in The Living Daylights so it's the sort of thing Eon might use.
AGENT FOR LIFE - which I mentioned in a previous post. The title means Bond is forever an agent.
DANGEROUS TO KNOW - perhaps a bit generic sounding, but I like it!
ABOVE TOP SECRET - perhaps more of a John Gardner type title than a Fleming title but you can imagine Bond getting a mission and M says it's above top secret! Perhaps a bit gimmicky but worth a mention.
FOR LOVE, HATE AND REASON - quite a strong title, I reckon. I can imagine Fleming coming up with a title like that. It's a longer title and we haven't had that for a while.
SHATTERHAND - B Broccoli ruled it out so I think we should take her at her word, but I think it's a nice Bondian title and I can see it used in a future film.
I think DEATH TO SPIES could be a realistic choice but I'm going with Eon picking a new original title. Something directly linked to the plot.
"The Property of a Lady" always had a very nice ring to me. Plus, it would allow the use of the Casino Royale/QoS logo, which I admit I prefer to the classic one.
On an aside note, have you noticed that the Dr No beach has begun appearing in several social media? Maybe it's not at Goldeneye after all?
"Enjoy it while it lasts."
"The very words I live by."
It goes without saying the plot would have to link into a property of a lady - whatever that is. It could be anything but it would need some reference in the film. Octopussy's auction scene referenced the phrase so it's doubtful Eon would repeat that.
I don't see how they could have a hyped up special event where they announce the cast and other details about the film, but not reveal the title ?:) I'm hoping that apparent news "from EON" is just plain wrong.
That would be terrible PR for the film. "Hey we're announcing a new Bond film and here's the cast. The title? We have no idea!"
8-)
If the title isn't revealed - it does make you wonder if Eon should give it up after Bond 25. The pre-production on Bond 25 had been rather difficult!
Writer/director fired or left by consent, endless rewrites, delays in release date - not to mention a whopping five year gap to make it in the first place! If the title is not announced today, well, I guess it's all part of Bond 25's somewhat chaotic production. Perhaps they haven't decided between the following two titles:
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I think the ecoterrorism idea can work. I guess there is a danger of giving the impression pollution isn't a big problem or that all eco-activists are terrorists, but any competent script can avoid those traps. It would be easy for a villain to paint himself as an environmentalist and even getting help from real environmentalists to reach his goals. This theme was touched upon in QoS, though.
The airport at Ocho Rios (Ian Fleming International) doesn't have nearly a long enough runway to accommodate an A340. Kingston is closer to GoldenEye than Montego Bay and those two are the only Jamaican airports that an A340 could safely land at.
The Garden Of Death? Hmm... I guess it's better than 007 In New York!
I quite like
Agent For Life
In other words Bond can never leave the service. He's always an agent for life. It could work within the context of Bond 25 as there's been a suggestion the plot involves Bond SPOILER NOT SHOWN. Well I won't mention it but it's out there on the internet if you knew where to look. Anyway, AGENT FOR LIFE could work within that context.
I guess if there's some mention of the plot outline at the 'reveal' the actual title may make perfect sense.
Wow, finally a word from Kinnear. So he does appear to be in it. It answers one question, if Kinnear is in Bond25, he is clearly not in Jamaica, so maybe not all the cast will be there.
6 hours 11 minutes to go!!
Was he present for past press conferences? I honestly cant remember (edit - he was)
Also wasn't that festival 12th and 14th April??? Quickly googled it hence interview maybe over a week old??? Therefore does not rule him out being in Jamaica
Cant sleep here now woke up at silly o clock
See tweet here
https://twitter.com/YrOnlyHope/status/1121273735821103104
OK, you're right, Kinnear could be in Jamaica. I should have checked when that event was on.
Five hours, 8 minute to go...
Shatterhand
Property of a Lady
Garden of Death
Would it be too much to ask for Risico? I think it has a mystery which could be nicely explained (as the short story does) which could make it appealing. And let’s not forget The Hildebrand Rarity - albeit the jokey reference in Spectre - is also a great title.
My money’s on some variation of Shatterhand (but then again I’m the worst gambler ever).
How about The Death Collector?
The one I’d really like would be Carte Blanche. I think that’s a perfect Bond title. A fan on the net came up with ‘Double Or Nothing’ which I’m very fond of: has good relevance to Bond’s status too.
YouTube? Apparently the official 007 channel will be live streaming...I just hope nothing goes wrong with that.
Actually maybe not: there’s no mention of it on there. Bit rubbish. The YouTube channel at least has a ‘Bond 25’ banner so that seems the best bet.
I prefer to have the respective 'The' in front of Garden and Property but I'd still be more than happy if not.
As for Risico, I'd like it to be used, but not yet, as I wouldn't want 3 one-word titles in a row.
And as for The Hildebrand Rarity, I like it, but I think it now has no chance because of the reference in SP.
I like The Death Collector, but I prefer The Garden Of Death and it's either one or the other right?
Not keen on Shatterhand as a title, but I'd still be excited because of the garden of death being included possibilities.
Eclipse is just uncreative IMO. It's a nice word lol but it's just that, a word, and it's not like it's a rare word. However, having the word Eclipse in a longer title would be fine and I wouldn't be surprised if this happens.
But overall, given the recent rumours, I think The Property Of A Lady is a good guess.
Or it could be something completely new that nobody has said.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
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With a few short hours to go, some musings about the title....
SHAKEN NOT STIRRED - probably my fave choice but might work better with a new Bond actor in Bond 26. It's an iconic phrase associated with Bond.
DEATH TO SPIES - which I mentioned in a previous post - and could be a realistic choice given the phrase was used in The Living Daylights so it's the sort of thing Eon might use.
AGENT FOR LIFE - which I mentioned in a previous post. The title means Bond is forever an agent.
DANGEROUS TO KNOW - perhaps a bit generic sounding, but I like it!
ABOVE TOP SECRET - perhaps more of a John Gardner type title than a Fleming title but you can imagine Bond getting a mission and M says it's above top secret! Perhaps a bit gimmicky but worth a mention.
FOR LOVE, HATE AND REASON - quite a strong title, I reckon. I can imagine Fleming coming up with a title like that. It's a longer title and we haven't had that for a while.
SHATTERHAND - B Broccoli ruled it out so I think we should take her at her word, but I think it's a nice Bondian title and I can see it used in a future film.
I think DEATH TO SPIES could be a realistic choice but I'm going with Eon picking a new original title. Something directly linked to the plot.
On an aside note, have you noticed that the Dr No beach has begun appearing in several social media? Maybe it's not at Goldeneye after all?
"The very words I live by."
I don't see how they could have a hyped up special event where they announce the cast and other details about the film, but not reveal the title ?:) I'm hoping that apparent news "from EON" is just plain wrong.
If the title isn't revealed - it does make you wonder if Eon should give it up after Bond 25. The pre-production on Bond 25 had been rather difficult!
Writer/director fired or left by consent, endless rewrites, delays in release date - not to mention a whopping five year gap to make it in the first place! If the title is not announced today, well, I guess it's all part of Bond 25's somewhat chaotic production.
1) 007
or
2) Bond
Tough decision.
Will be some anticlimax if it's not revealed especially since 007.com / EON themselves are calling the Event "The Live Reveal"
PS - the link is up now on 007.com with a countdown active
https://www.007.com/bond-25-live-real/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niiS0uBs9ec
Also yeah, the YT description confirms it's live in Jamaica.