Who will be the director of Bond26?

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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,551MI6 Agent

    I was really looking forward to the switchblade plane. I thought it looked brilliant in the previews but actually find it to be quite a let down in the film. They get in the plane. They fly the plane. The sail the plane. They get out of the plane. It's a nice plane, but disappointingly under-used.

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,394MI6 Agent

    well see that makes sense. @Number24 likes seeing the military hardware because he's Number24, and therefor he sees that as a Bondian element. We're each going to find our own Bondian elements depending on who we are and what we get out of these silly films. I already named three Bondian elements upthread I thought were done better in this film than in any Bondfilm in years.

    I think @emtiem you like the "stealing the grape" type moments, and I agree such moment are generally missing from this latest film, but theres other aspects that are there that satisfy me just as much.

  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,775MI6 Agent

    Yeah I was definitely going to mention the stealing the grape! 😁 But I do like the big stunts too, and even though it didn't quite work, Spectre has the plane chasing a car down a ski slope scene, Bond using the demolition netting to escape the exploding MI6 ruin... stuff like that. None of the action in NTTD is inventive at all once you're past the bridge jump (maybe the winch trip line thing). He shoots people, he punches people, he bangs his car into bad cars.

    There just aren't any points where you'd play the Bond theme.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    What I mean by Bond opening the silo I'm thinking of the scene were Q is instructing Bond on how to open the silo safely. Bond is so confident and reckless he does it faster than Q can read the instructions. That's a form of swagger in my opinion, and very Bondian. If you only find a few seconds of the Cuba sequence has that special sauce I don't know what to say other than very many see that sequence is pure Bond.

  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,775MI6 Agent

    Yeah, the hatch is a nice little joke but it's barely making a scratch on what I'm talking about. And as I say, I don't get the fuss over the Cuba bit. It's light-hearted, sure, and I enjoy Paloma as much as the next person; but the action is just punching and shooting. I didn't see anything inventive or memorable.

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,394MI6 Agent

    what about when he finally uses the mounted machine guns on his car while pivoting 360degrees on one wheel?

    that certainly looked hella-cool, and there was an incredible buildup and release of tension leading up to that moment.


    of course the buildup of tension was due to 10 minutes of him being mean to his girlfriend, which was incredibly unBondian...

  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,775MI6 Agent
    edited January 17

    Yeah I was expecting that to feel big and Bondy, but I must admit it didn't hit the spot for me. Obviously we all knew it was coming and it had been spoiled massively, but there wasn't a moment of joy there. Unlike, weirdly, I still feel when I watch the end of Skyfall and Bond sits up in the parked DB5 and cracks the machine guns open - that just works, and I still feel that "yeah, go James!" feeling of exhilaration. It's the difference between Bond and Ethan Hunt: Mission Impossible's stunts are thrilling and exciting and fantastic, but you're never really willing Ethan to do something ballsy and funny and impressive and teach those bad guys like you are with Bond: Bond films are about celebrating the sheer balls of this man. Do you know what I mean? The moments where you love him and want to stand up and clap. Mendes got it and I don't think Fukunaga did.

    I guess, as you say, the tone of it was so unpleasant up until the guns coming out that the moment doesn't really diffuse it, you're just pleased they're out of it. I don't want to do it down too much though, it is a good moment and is extremely memorable, and pretty cool.

  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,679MI6 Agent

    The scene where Bond opens up with the electric Gatling's in the DB5 is beautifully acted by both Craig and Lea Seydoux and masterfully shot by Fukanaga. It's a great "dramatic" moment given the context and set-up. In a different situation, if Bond was just on his own (no Madeleine and all that drama) being chased by the bad guys, presumably cornered, trapped and a goner in the DB5, was actually just letting the bad guys get their shots in (playing rope-a-dope) until he gets a s...eating grin and winks at the bad guy when he stops to reload and lets loose with the machine guns would be a more traditional Bond moment where the audience gets the same grin on their faces as Bond.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    If you want a Bond with more sense of adventure, fun and humor, this could be the way to go:

    Director: Cary Fukunaga/Mattehw Vaughn

    Screenwiters: Jane Goldman, Phoebe Waller-Bridge and the director.


    Bond: Aaron Taylor-Johnson

    M: Hugh Laurie

    Q: Stephen Fry

    Moneypenny; Maisie Williams

    Bond girl 1: Samara Weaving

    Bond girl 2: Depeeka Padukone

    Main villain: Emma Watson

  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,161MI6 Agent

    Really liking Hugh Laurie for M. That's very, very fun.

    Now I'm thinking Hugh Grant might be a fun Q.

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent
    edited March 22

    Both could work.


    I like the idea of having Emma Watson as the main villan. It would be casting against type. Promote her henchman as the villan and present her as the cute, wholesome type. Then surprise the audience and reveal her as the power behind the throne, a very intelligent psycho. She's old enough, smart enough, a very good actress and looks striking.



  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,161MI6 Agent

    I'd rather have Saorsie Ronan as 'the big bad'. I like Watson but Ronan is 10x the actress.

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    Saorsie Ronan could work in that type of role too, but don't underestimate Watson as an actress. Watch her in some of her lesser known work such as "Colonia" and "Regression". Most people know Ronan is a very good actress who can play anything. The good thing about Watson is that most people have only seen her in good girl roles in "fairy tale" movies like Harry Potter, "Beauty and the beast" and "Little women". Fewer will guess Emma Watson is the villan.

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,394MI6 Agent

    TwoFour said:

    Emma Watson as the main villain. It would be casting against type. Promote her henchman as the villain and present her as the cute, wholesome type. Then surprise the audience and reveal her as the power behind the throne, a very intelligent psycho. She's old enough, smart enough, a very good actress and looks striking.

    wait, didnt we see that plot already?

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent
    edited May 11

    We're seen a variation of it in TWINE, but how many times have we seen the "wealthy man who M thinks is a pillar of society, but is actually out to destroy the world" plot?

    But was Elektra King ever the cute, wholesome type? There are more ways we can make her different. She can play a doctor, head of a NGO, a journalist. She can refuse to sleep with Bond, her motives can be different from Elektra's etc.

  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 2,072MI6 Agent

    Emma Watson would be interesting. I don't see what an actor's supposed ability has ever had to do with being in a Bond film. Jerome Krabbe is a good actor but he was simply appalling, Jonathon Pryce slummed it, ditto Waltz, and I don't think Ralph Fiennes has done himself any favours. It's only recently really big names have started to be associated with the franchise. I'd prefer the production to start discovering some relative unknowns.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    I think Mads Mikkelsen and Javier Bardem delivered really good performances as villans. But I agree that EON should hire the best actors in other countries who're not famous internationally more often (I guess that was the case with Mikkelsen at the time. The alternative is casting against type (like Emma Watson) and not typecast like Waltz.

  • John from CorkJohn from Cork Posts: 84MI6 Agent

    lee tamahoril will surely be available to direct

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

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  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,161MI6 Agent
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  • LuciusNightmareLuciusNightmare Posts: 142MI6 Agent

    I think that the Safdie brothers would make a terrific Bond film. They would get the adrenaline of the audience racing fo sure!


  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    I'd love to see a Bond movie directed by Denis Villeneuve, but after a quick look at IMDB I don't think it'll happen in many years. I'm very happy that he's doing Dune part 2. He's also doing the mini-series The Son starring Jake Gyllenaal, Then comes two big movies; "Randevous with Rama" and Cleopatra. I don't know enough about the movie business to estimate how many years this is likely to take, but my guess is he won't get a phone call from EON for Bond26.

  • LuciusNightmareLuciusNightmare Posts: 142MI6 Agent

    Denis Villeneuve would be the dream choice. I think he was the no.1 pick for NTTD, but it coincides with Dune. In the end, I think he went with that film as it was his 'dream project.' I think there is a chance that Villeneuve gets the job with Bond 26. However, the schedule will be a problem. Mainly as Dune Part Two will come out in October 2023. It will be followed by a big awards campaign going into 2024. This would likely mean Villeneuve will not be free until spring that year. In theory, they could start filming Bond 26 in summer 2024 for a release in 2025. I think Eon could make that timeframe.

    Though if they are mandated a release by MGM/Amazon, I could see 2024 being the year as it would be MGM's centenary. If they wanted someone edgy, I quite like the idea of Julia Ducournau. She's young, cool and has indicated she would make a studio film. She might be a little too artsy at the moment, but she could bring a contemporary flavour to a franchise like Bond.

    If she is too idiosyncratic for Eon, then I suggest Johan Renck. He has a lot of style and has proven himself in television (much like Fukunaga). He has a new film at Netflix - which may or may not be an Oscar player.


  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent

    I too want Denis Villeneuve to direct Bond, but he has already signed on to four projects so he won't be available in a long time.

    Ducournauo I don't know.

    Chernobyl is one of the best mini-series I've seen in a long time, so that's a pluss for Renck.

  • LuciusNightmareLuciusNightmare Posts: 142MI6 Agent

    Also, I was wondering of Fukunaga was the exception to the 'no Americans' rule. He was hired after Danny Boyle had dropped out and Eon were a little desperate. In this interview, Broccoli basically admits that Fukunaga was hired because they needed someone and he was available. She seems clear that her preference is for British or Commonwealth directors because she feels they understand the sensibilities of Bond.

    Are we just looking for British/Commonwealth directors then? I think Europeans fall on that list as Marc Forster is Swiss. Though it's really clear to me that Eon don't want to hire Americans - unless they are in a tight spot.

    I think the only two choices they want for the reboot are Christopher Nolan or Denis Villeneuve. The latter has openly said he wants the job. This is same guy who made Blade Runner 2049 and Dune! They should just announce him already!

    https://twitter.com/joshuahorowitz/status/1446458143584751618

  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,161MI6 Agent

    I think Fukunaga is probably out. He's had some 'me too' charges levied at him recently, specifically surrounding the first season of TRUE DETECTIVE. Even if he's innocent, he may be tainted goods for a couple of years.

    Personally, my 'dream' choice would be Gareth Evans, director of THE RAID movies and GANGS OF LONDON, among other things. He has a solid directorial style and his fight choreography is second to none. Give him the reins of a couple of films and we'd have something amazing from an action standpoint.

    I'll also second Denis Villeneuve as another 'dream' choice, but he's going to be busy with DUNE part 2 and presumably additional DUNE features for years to come.

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,992MI6 Agent
    edited May 10

    If Fukunaga is out of the running it's disapointing, Even those who disliked NTTD didn't have a problem with his work as a director. In my opinion Fukunaga did a great job. I'd like to ad that Villeneuve has much more on his plate than "just" the Dune movies. He also has "Randevous with Rama" and Cleopatra and the TV-series The Son. Nolan looks far less busy since he doesn't have anything listed on IMDB after Oppheimer, a movie that's filming now.

    Christopher Nolan has said very clearly that the wants to direct Bond, not only Villeneuve. Nolan has even gone on record saying he has ideas for what he wants to do if he gets the job.

  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,161MI6 Agent
    edited May 10

    I think Nolan would want/demand too much control for EON's liking. Whatever director latches onto this project is going to have to abide by EON's rules...Amazon's too, probably.

    I still say Gareth Evans. If you haven't seen either of THE RAID films, I recommend you do so. They are very violent but Evans has a way of filming action that is just amazing.

    This is arguably the 'big' fight in THE RAID 2. It's very bloody but worth watching if you've never seen it.


    And then watch all of GANGS OF LONDON. There's one episode (5 or 6) where the whole episode is essentially some Danish mercenaries attacking a farmhouse. It's better than almost any action film you'll see.

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  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,161MI6 Agent

    Some clips from GANGS OF LONDON:



    Not that I want Bond to go THAT far in terms of action, but the director definitely knows what he's doing in these types of scenes. The non-fight scenes are also very well done.

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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,551MI6 Agent

    B26 is going to be a reboot one way or the other as it's a new Bond actor. It may not go back to the very beginning a la CR, but the last five were a storyline unto themselves and therefore this has to be something new and different. For that reason, I wouldn't want Fukunaga to direct. It's a new Bond actor, a new storyline (presumably) and therefore it needs to be a new director to bring a new feel, I believe.

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