Next Bond after Craig: Rumours, etc

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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    I think they need to seriously cut the budget of this next Bond film. Didn't Spectre cost a ridiculous $250 million? I read that Dunkirk cost only $100 million to make and that's a full blown war film.

    Yup and the poor car chase cost more then the budget of UNCLE!!

    I dont think they got much for their money at all with SPECTRE, I like the film but some of these locations were wasted and felt like 5 mins. They could of made DC have an adventure getting to Mr Whites cabin across the land, mountains etc instead of a 30 sec aerial shot when they had that beautiful scenery.

    SPECTRE Had all the great ingredients / elements, snow, deserts, cities but none of them made me want to be there if that makes sense. The OHMSS trailer had me buzzing - it looked kind of perfect.

    I Pray to god Mendes is not involved again, appreciate whats he has done but I think he blew it on SPECTRE and he should have delivered more

    I think we've agreed on these points before, Mendes has done DC's no favours other than box office returns. The Rome car chase would have been better with an Arnold score and dropping that phonecall to moneypenny. And Austria was completely wasted, for what they put in the final cut they could have filmed it all on set and saved money. Going on location is a bond tradition but usually we get a proper taste of the Location. The Blofeld lair explosion may have broken records but cinematically would have lost nothing as cgi.
    And even though that explosion broke records nobody really remembers it anyway :))
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:

    Yup and the poor car chase cost more then the budget of UNCLE!!

    I dont think they got much for their money at all with SPECTRE, I like the film but some of these locations were wasted and felt like 5 mins. They could of made DC have an adventure getting to Mr Whites cabin across the land, mountains etc instead of a 30 sec aerial shot when they had that beautiful scenery.

    SPECTRE Had all the great ingredients / elements, snow, deserts, cities but none of them made me want to be there if that makes sense. The OHMSS trailer had me buzzing - it looked kind of perfect.

    I Pray to god Mendes is not involved again, appreciate whats he has done but I think he blew it on SPECTRE and he should have delivered more

    I think we've agreed on these points before, Mendes has done DC's no favours other than box office returns. The Rome car chase would have been better with an Arnold score and dropping that phonecall to moneypenny. And Austria was completely wasted, for what they put in the final cut they could have filmed it all on set and saved money. Going on location is a bond tradition but usually we get a proper taste of the Location. The Blofeld lair explosion may have broken records but cinematically would have lost nothing as cgi.
    And even though that explosion broke records nobody really remembers it anyway :))
    I do remember the horrific CGI of the Vauxhall Cross explosion in Skyfall :v
    a reasonable rate of return
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Point being that an exploding building is an exploding building, if cgi was good enough for the finale it would have been good enough for Blofelds lair, and saved production 25 million pounds. Sometimes when I look at mendes two films I almost get the impression he was like a kid in a candy shop.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    I actually thought that the Blofeld lair explosion was infact CGI because it did not look really spectacular :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,744MI6 Agent
    edited July 2017
    Ironically, some folks on this site were very concerned during the shooting of Skyfall that they were cutting corners and going cheap by faking locations, etc and look how that one turned out. Sometimes, in the right hands, a tighter budget encourages more originality, ingenuity and a greater focus on the story...which might not be a bad thing for Bond at this point. A more stripped down, back to the basics Bond film that plays to Craig's strengths would be a great note for him to finish his tenure as Bond. With regards to Sam Mendes, I think Mendes own initial instinct that he only had one good Bond film in him was correct. I don't dislike SPECTRE, it has some great moments, but the combination of the foster brother angle dressed up in a Bond's greatest hits package fell a bit short.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    I actually thought that the Blofeld lair explosion was infact CGI because it did not look really spectacular :D
    The Blofeld's Lair explosion sums up Spectre as a whole pretty well. Extremely expensive but not memorable and quickly forgotten.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Well, the PTS was quite memorable to me - together with Monica Belucci's appearance :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,744MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Well, the PTS was quite memorable to me - together with Monica Belucci's appearance :D

    I would definitely include Monica Belucci's return along with Jeffrey Wright as Felix and a David Arnold score as things that I would welcome back.
  • armenianmoviemanarmenianmovieman The 818Posts: 674MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Well, the PTS was quite memorable to me - together with Monica Belucci's appearance :D

    I would definitely include Monica Belucci's return along with Jeffrey Wright as Felix and a David Arnold score as things that I would welcome back.

    Hasn't Jeffrey Wright pretty much confirmed he's back when he posted that Felix pic a few weeks ago?
    Yes. Consssssiderably.
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,945MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Well, the PTS was quite memorable to me ...
    yes I thought that was the best part of the film by far, both the bravura opening shot and the actual helicopter fight
    I also liked the big meeting scene up til Waltz says "cuckoo", that was very freakily staged, almost like a nightmare sequence
    and maybe Blofeld forcing Swann to watch the security footage of her fathers suicide, also a disturbing scene
    but yes, the rest of the movie, anything with potential was squandered before they did anything interesting

    and the current generation of filmmakers definitely does not get the whole travel fantasy aspect inherent in the Bond series
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Hasn't Jeffrey Wright pretty much confirmed he's back when he posted that Felix pic a few weeks ago?

    I don't think that meant much. Roger Moore posted photos of him as James Bond online in 2016, but I don't think he was trying to hint that was coming back either.
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    So if DC is back for 25 it will probably mean another 4 or 5 years after till 26(assuming not filming 25 and 26 back to back, highly unlikely IMHO) that will then probably rule out all the current main candidnates Hardy, Hiddleston and of course Idris( :)) ) as all will be mid forties! And think now that it takes them 3-4 years between movies 007 number 7 needs to be early to mid 30's to get a good run of films!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think Justin Bieber has just cancelled parts of his world tour, to free himself up to take on the role
    Of 007 ! ;)
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    I am very frustrated at the 2019 release. It's obvious, EON hasn't a clue anymore how to progress with Bond.

    Either it will be Craig again (because BB doesn't let him go), and maybe even bloody Mendes too. Or it will be a new Bond and I have a funny feeling it will be BB's new darling Jamie Bell who is Craiglight. That would be a catastrophe as Craig was Bondlight.

    Oh well...one can only hope for better times.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    "For God's sake, let us sit upon the ground. And tell sad stories of the death of kings" :#
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • SolitaireRedBlackSolitaireRedBlack Posts: 1MI6 Agent
    superdaddy wrote:
    So if DC is back for 25 it will probably mean another 4 or 5 years after till 26(assuming not filming 25 and 26 back to back, highly unlikely IMHO) that will then probably rule out all the current main candidnates Hardy, Hiddleston and of course Idris( :)) ) as all will be mid forties! And think now that it takes them 3-4 years between movies 007 number 7 needs to be early to mid 30's to get a good run of films!
    Hiddleston is the youngest - he won't be 40 until 2021. So similar age to Brosnan and Dalton when they started, and only slightly older than DC. But the others will probably age out. Fassbender's on that 'older' list, too.

    Unless Nolan wants to come in with Hardy and do a relatively quick (say every 2 years) trilogy.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited July 2017
    I am very frustrated at the 2019 release. It's obvious, EON hasn't a clue anymore how to progress with Bond.

    I'll give you some weeks until I remind you that you have been totally wrong :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    I think Justin Bieber has just cancelled parts of his world tour, to free himself up to take on the role
    Of 007 ! ;)
    my money's on Harry styles! It's the BB,DC love fest all over again with him and Nolan after Dunkirk :)) :))
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    I am very frustrated at the 2019 release. It's obvious, EON hasn't a clue anymore how to progress with Bond.

    Either it will be Craig again (because BB doesn't let him go), and maybe even bloody Mendes too. Or it will be a new Bond and I have a funny feeling it will be BB's new darling Jamie Bell who is Craiglight. That would be a catastrophe as Craig was Bondlight.

    Oh well...one can only hope for better times.


    A fully agree with this summary...
  • SciarraSciarra Posts: 22MI6 Agent
    Good evening all. I just read that DC has signed on for Bond 25. On reading that news, I got pen and paper out and wrote a personal note to Ms. Broccoli at EON Productions. I "strongly" suggested she bring back Martin Campbell to direct Bond 25 and pointed out how fabulous Casino Royal was. I also suggested (strongly again) that less is more. More grittier scenes and realism from Casino and more realistic and nastier car chases as in Quantum. I also stated that it's not about the biggest explosions or the sleekest cinematography but more of stuff that made Casino and Skyfall such great movies.

    Weather she takes any of what I said seriously or even get's to read what I sent is another question indeed. But I am happy I did what could. The rest as they say... is up to the God's.
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    edited July 2017
    The extra year delay in making Bond 25 does allow Craig enough time to film tv show Purity - then chill out a while and then commit to Bond. The show is supposed to begin filming this year. I don't know if that is a factor in Eon/MGM delaying Bond 25 - but if that is a factor it's a good enough reason to imagine Crag will return. Having said that, four years is a long-ish gap and a compelling reason to recast the role.

    Pardon the self-indulgence but this is my 100th post on AJB. :)
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:
    The extra year delay in making Bond 25 does allow Craig enough time to film tv show Purity - then chill out a while and then commit to Bond. The show is supposed to begin filming this year.  I don't know if that is a factor in Eon/MGM delaying Bond 25 - but if that is a factor it's a good enough reason to imagine Crag will return. Having said that, four years is a long-ish gap and a compelling reason to recast the role.
    Hope we don't get Remington Steel-ed.
    a reasonable rate of return
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    With Bond 25 coming in 2019 and if we assume Craig is in it, there are six actors from my poll who will get too old for Bond26 (2023-24?)

    Idris Elba
    Damien Lewis
    Michael Fassbender
    Matthew Goode
    Tom Hardy
    Benedict Cumberbatch
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Thank god, that Idris Elba speculation can be put to bed :s
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,580Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Thank god, that Idris Elba speculation can be put to bed :s

    He's had a bloody good run at something he wasn't ever on a 'list' for in the first place :s :))
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,332Chief of Staff
    Nothing new, but front page of "The Times":

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    Elba is a fine actor, but I too hope it the end of the talk of him as Bond.
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,759MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Thank god, that Idris Elba speculation can be put to bed :s

    He's had a bloody good run at something he wasn't ever on a 'list' for in the first place :s :))

    I still talk to people who think he's been cast! :)) Had it not been for Amy Pascal's offhand remark in one leaked email, do you think anyone in the general public would have even considered Elba playing the role?
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Nothing new, but front page of "The Times":

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/
    That bloody wrists quote just won't go away will it!
    In other news James Bond 007 has today updated their cover photo
    20170726_132854.jpg
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    Well, If they know he'll resign in a month or two I doubt they would have done that
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