Danny Boyle has left Bond25 over 'creative differences'

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  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    I’d be happy with Bigelow—she’s made some brilliant films.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,449MI6 Agent
    Bigelow would be an intriguing choice. She’s an Oscar winning director who handles both character and action well. Plus there would be the publicity coup for EON of having a woman direct a James Bond film.
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Did a quick bit of research on Directors being changed for films and found a few examples …….
    Gone With The Wind, The Outlaw Josey Wales, and Spartacus. Obviously these all turned out
    to be terrible, terrible movies ! :D ;)

    Well, Victor Fleming and Stanley Kubrick are otherwise unavailable and Eastwood has said that he doesn't like spy films (he only made the Eiger Sanction to get out of his contract with Universal).

    So, we're back to square one, it would seem. :)
  • kopy50kopy50 Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    wouldn't be a bad idea to get Martin Campbell back
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,746MI6 Agent
    He's busy.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,746MI6 Agent
    If they want a craftsman action director instead of an auteur who will do what EON tells him to do, Simon West might fit the bill. He made Con Air and Expenables II among other action movies.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,746MI6 Agent
    Mike Newell is also awailable. He directed Donnie Brasco, a Harry Potter, Prince of Persia, Four weddings and a funeral, several Young Indiana Jones episodes etc.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,262MI6 Agent
    Yes, but can they actually use the script they've been working on or any part of it? If not, forget all this talk about who's now available, because realistically it's going to be another year. During which, they can go after whichever director they want.

    If they can use what they've got, well, it sounds really like the kind of thing they've done with every Bond film of late, inc Brosnan's. Get someone in to do a draft, then change get someone to change it. Often as not with the instructions of the studio bigwigs. It sounds like they didn't get Danny to go along with these changes (usually meaning more stunt scenes and diff third act) so he walked.

    If they can use, this they can amend it and get someone else on board quick. Thing is, even as of now, directors tend to be very involved in the plots and locations of these films, unlike in the John Glen days.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,746MI6 Agent
    Neil Marshall directed Centurion on and The Decent, but has consentrated on high-end TV series lately (GoT, Westworld).
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,234MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    I don’t think another John Glen-type churn out would hit the mark.

    I personally love the John Glen movies, and they are just entertaining (very entertaining) films, and to me that is the main thing that matters.

    One day in the future I am hoping for an era where John Glen-type bond movies will resurface and the audience will be more accepting of films like these, instead of the "personal arc" stuff that they keep churning out.

    Yet SPECTRE is as entertaining as any of Glen's output, but look how critical people are of it. With or without the personal arc storylines, our expectations are higher than they were 30-odd years ago.

    In your opinion it is. But whatever the film, people are overly-critical of everything these days.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,234MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    I don’t think another John Glen-type churn out would hit the mark.

    I personally love the John Glen movies, and they are just entertaining (very entertaining) films, and to me that is the main thing that matters.

    One day in the future I am hoping for an era where John Glen-type bond movies will resurface and the audience will be more accepting of films like these, instead of the "personal arc" stuff that they keep churning out.

    IMO, the MCU might be what you're looking for. An interesting cross between assembly line films with light character arc stuff that follows through. :))

    I don't even mind personal arc stuff, I just don't necessarily look for it in Bond. If you look at my list then SF is high, but I think the personal stuff is overdone in bond overall these days. I like films for many different reasons, whether it has a personal arc or not, but the John Glen bond films really do feel like straight out adventures to me, which I like very much.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,758MI6 Agent
    The problem with Spectre is they started out making a John Glen-style Bond film, but then ended up folding in the personal arc stuff similar to Skyfall. In the end, it was like watching two films mashed into one. That, to me, is the critical flaw with Spectre and why I detest the film.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Seeing how EON tried to get Villenueve and probably Nolan to direct before Boyle I would think they're only interested in getting high profile names. I think that rules out Martin Campbell, yes he's made two of the best received Bond films but that was a long time ago and he's not exactly been churning out blockbusters since then. Lets be thankful for his two contributions to the franchise and focus on finding a new voice instead of constantly trying to retread the past.
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    Chris Nolan would be the best choice, perhaps? Chris and his brother, Jonathan, write the screenplay, Chris Nolan directs. Bond would need to be recast. I reckon he'd jump at the chance to direct the new Bond actor. Craig would be paid a generous fee for 'leaving the role'.

    The media often mention how much Barbara loves Daniel Craig. If she's completely smitten with the guy it's doubtful she would let him go but at the end of the day it's show business. If Nolan can come on board with a decent screenplay and there's a decent new actor out there - it makes sense to go that route. Bond is bigger than Craig. It can and will continue without him.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    So, Babs and DC want to kill off Bond and Boyle didn't! This Bond 25 is not shaping up too well so far
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    The problem with Spectre is they started out making a John Glen-style Bond film, but then ended up folding in the personal arc stuff similar to Skyfall. In the end, it was like watching two films mashed into one. That, to me, is the critical flaw with Spectre and why I detest the film.

    Wow, I thought I didn't like it but detest. I am very disappointed by it, particularly as I thought Craig was good in it but detest Is a whole other ball game. I think the negativity that some (not all by any means ) feel about it is fueling our frustration with the current state of play.
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    So, Babs and DC want to kill off Bond and Boyle didn't! This Bond 25 is not shaping up too well so far

    I find that surprising as I thought that was his radical idea . Really starting not to care much one way or another TBH.
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Perhaps as speculated before Babs and Michael are preparing to Sell Bond, Killing him would leave the
    new owner of the rights, a clean slate ?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • MrGoreMrGore Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    edited August 2018
    Killing Bond to sell him off? Sounds plausible.

    Recall, that Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney with the character set intact. None of the heroic trio had died, or become so altered as to become unrecognizable. Maybe, you are right. This might be about disposing of an Intellectual Property. Maybe that explains the delay.

    BB/MGW want to do a George? Possibly selling to Disney? Dear oh dear. Just imagine it.

    Sorry to be like this, cynical, but I've been watching these movies all my life.


    2020 release looking likely. IMHO. Or, even worse, another Quantum muddle.

    Just. A. Joke.

    What is wrong with just making a movie every 2 or 3 years?

    Feel really sorry for production crew professionals probably being left in limbo.

    Fans? What are they, anyway, according to BB, MGW, especially DC?

    Kill Bond? Kill the franchise, too. No matter how they try and do that. No matter how clever they think they're being with that. It will not fly with the mainstream audience. If that is why Boyle walked, my respect for him just went up.

    Look at the current destruction of Star Wars being carried out by producers who think they know better than paying customers. Kill or "reimagine" beloved central characters and watch your box office returns crash and burn.

    Recall that OHMSS (death of main character) had, at that time, a historically low box office return for the franchise. I remember walking out of the cinema in 1969 feeling "sad". Not, "hey that was a fun movie!"

    They needed to get Connery back for DAF to revive it.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,746MI6 Agent
    Please remember the source is The Sun, not Variety or someone at Pinewood.
  • MrGoreMrGore Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Please remember the source is The Sun, not Variety or someone at Pinewood.

    I agree. Thank you for the reminder.

    Just frustrated at the possibilities 25 might be delayed. It's too early in the morning here, to be rational.
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    edited August 2018
    Bond dies?

    How do they do Bond 26? Is the next Bond just pretending to be Bond? ?:)

    The ghost of Bond? :D
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,480Chief of Staff
    bonded123 wrote:
    Bond dies?

    How do they do Bond 26? Is the next Bond just pretending to be Bond? ?:)

    The ghost of Bond? :D

    Doesn’t matter...new owners, new actor...and Eon neatly tie up their ownership.
    YNWA 97
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    Okay, I'm taking your bait. You're saying Eon is determined to sell up after Bond 25? Sell its share to MGM or another studio? This could result in an American playing Bond.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,480Chief of Staff
    bonded123 wrote:
    Okay, I'm taking your bait. You're saying Eon is determined to sell up after Bond 25? Sell its share to MGM or another studio? This could result in an American playing Bond.

    It’s been mentioned that Eon are interested in selling up - not sure I’d use the word ‘determined’...that’s why it was interesting to find out how long their latest distribution deal was/is...If it’s only a one film deal...
    New owners could do whatever they wanted...but would they want to mess too much...?

    It’s just something I heard over a year ago...
    YNWA 97
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    One question for Sir Myles. ;) Do you think this alleged plot idea - Bond dies - will still make it into the film or do you think it's been scrapped?
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    So, Babs and DC want to kill off Bond and Boyle didn't! This Bond 25 is not shaping up too well so far

    I find that surprising as I thought that was his radical idea . Really starting not to care much one way or another TBH.
    Yep, same!!
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,234MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    So, Babs and DC want to kill off Bond and Boyle didn't! This Bond 25 is not shaping up too well so far

    I honestly thought it would have been the other way round. Wow. Definitely a bigger reason for a dispute than a russian villain casting argument.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    I think killing off Bond would just seem like a cheap gimmick to me. As if they're competing with Infinity war's shock value or something.
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