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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    edited January 9
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    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,474MI6 Agent
    So, who‘s gonna believe this?

    Trump now labels Dr. Fauci „being a disaster“ and „if I‘d listened to him, we‘d have now 500.000 deaths“

    Well, Fauci was always the voice of being careful - in the ears of some overly cautious - so how could that claim have any substance?
    For sure, Fauci‘s suggestions would have led to less fatalities, so it‘s just an idiotic claim - obvious, blatant and a lie!

    Wouldn‘t it have been smarter saying „If I‘d listened to him, we‘d have 10 million more unemployed“ or „stock market would have lost 10% more“?

    Why put such an obvious lie out and who‘s really believing this sh*t?
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    Trump can say the moon is a big cheese and his base would still belive him :#
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    edited January 9
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    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 864MI6 Agent
    Joshua wrote:
    I have taken note of the different masks and will investigate (I don't need a gas mask though!). The replies have been most informative.

    With regard to 'fogging up' of spectacles, I am not sure if this trick will work, but we used to spit into the lenses of diving masks then rub it in to stop them from becoming misty. Perhaps a little bit of saliva rubbed into the inside of the lens might stop the problem? I'm not sure if it would affect vision though? It is fine under water but otherwise?

    I don't "need" a gas mask either, but it's fun to stir up some "behind your back" conversations in the upper middle class neighborhood where I live currently. :)) :)) :)) Although my wife says, that at my age it's no longer just childish, it's down right weird!
    I don't think that spitting into my glasses, and rubbing the lenses, in the local grocery store while checking the price tags on produce is going to go down too well with my fellow shoppers. :#

    There are all these anti fogging agents that one can buy, also shaving foam 1) spread on the lenses and 2) polished off, works quite well. I have used that in the past on spots of car windows and camera lenses, when I needed to prevent morning mist from blocking up the picture.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    edited January 9
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    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,029MI6 Agent
    0073

    It was just an idea! I actually meant spitting on the lenses while outside (away from people) but now that you have pointed it out I can see that doing it in the supermarket might cause a issue! I did not think it through!
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,029MI6 Agent
    Daily Star: Gary Lineker caught shopping without face mask - after slating those who don't wear them.
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/gary-lineker-caught-shopping-without-22871799


    He may have been eating crisps?!
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,029MI6 Agent
    Joshua wrote:
    0073

    It was just an idea! I actually meant spitting on the lenses while outside (away from people) but now that you have pointed it out I can see that doing it in the supermarket might cause a issue! I did not think it through!

    It was not until I came to England that I realised I had no need any more to improvise on many things to make every day life easier. But, if you want to explore the saliva thing and do not want to risk corona virus on other shoppers - just get a dog to lick your glasses before putting them on!

    You can tie the dog outside the supermarket then just go out each time your glasses (or gasmask lenses!) steams up!

    The dog of course, in between licking your glasses, may also lick other things that dogs like to lick, but this should help to fight the virus and help to make sure people keep two metres away from you!
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    So, who‘s gonna believe this?

    Trump now labels Dr. Fauci „being a disaster“ and „if I‘d listened to him, we‘d have now 500.000 deaths“

    Well, Fauci was always the voice of being careful - in the ears of some overly cautious - so how could that claim have any substance?
    For sure, Fauci‘s suggestions would have led to less fatalities, so it‘s just an idiotic claim - obvious, blatant and a lie!

    Wouldn‘t it have been smarter saying „If I‘d listened to him, we‘d have 10 million more unemployed“ or „stock market would have lost 10% more“?

    Why put such an obvious lie out and who‘s really believing this sh*t?

    Never understimate the blind stupidity of the Trump base, The Deplorables.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 50 years.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    That's practical thinking! Brilliant :D
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,474MI6 Agent
    Our Minister for Health, Jens Spahn has announced today, that he‘s Covid infected.

    Not sure how I feel when the man, who is in charge for keeping us all safe is not able to achieve this even for himself X-(
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    Pharmacy gigant Pfizer say they are in the last phase of the testing of their Covid-19 vaccine and they will be ready for approval in the US in the third week in November. Since Europe doesn't have an EUA – Emergency use authorization sysem like the US an approval in January is more likely here.

    About half of the covid-19 infectedin Norway are born outside the country. Are there simular statistics in other countries?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    edited January 9
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    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    Why did you guess Welsh government has few women ? They're the ones who intervened after Tesco blocked period products.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    edited January 9
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    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    I perhaps maybe got your point now ....
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,474MI6 Agent
    Could be also in the Rant Box, but....

    2 of my pet peeves when it concerns retail:

    1. Here in Germany part of the hygene concept is, that stores are controlling the number of customers in their location.
    Many go cheap and force you to use a shopping cart and they have limited the amount of shopping carts along with their shop sizes.
    Well that would be ok, when there would be a saniter so that I can clean the handles before I touch them.
    The 1$ store in my neighborhood has someone who is sanitizing every cart before the next customer touches it.
    But the big retail chains don't bother! You are forced to touch the filthy handles and if you don't take a cart, there is a bouncer, who reminds you "friendly" to use a cart.

    2. "Contactless Payments"
    So on checkout, many retail stores recommend "for the protection of us all" not to use cash but a card.
    Ok, so I enter or swipe my card but then have to touch the filthy pen to sign what is written on the computer screen!
    And I can't use my own pen because those touch screens require the filthy plastic pen!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,474MI6 Agent
    "Andrew Cuomo killed 6700 elderly citizens because he forced them back into their nursing homes while they where infected"

    I wish, that CNN would have asked him this 2 days ago when he was on their chanel.
    I admire Cuomo's leadership during the first wave of the pandemic so, decided to go a bit deeper into the topic because I found it difficult to believe that this happened like I am hearing from Right Wing Channels on and on.

    For a fact check go here
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/24/michael-caputo/hhs-official-blames-cuomo-nursing-home-covid-death/

    And if you want the short version:

    >>We rate this Mostly False<<

    What is true is, that there have been 6700 people dying in nursing homes in NY during the first wave
    And Cuomo ordered nursing homes to take back their people - even when they where still infected.

    However:

    - nursing homes could refuse by declaring that they are not having the capabilities taking care of infected elederlies (and this may have had financial consequences for those nursing homes)

    But: If we all remember, NY's hospitals where overflown with patients at a time and to take care for emergency patients, decisions had to be made to send infected people home to make room for more urgent cases.

    And the perception that those returning patients brought the virus back to those nursing facilities has been debunked, because the virus was spreading there already - it has been mostly brought in by staff.

    I take this as another example that the reality if far more complex than a screaming headline in Social Media Channels and I can only encourage everybody to do a bit of a research before making judgement.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,474MI6 Agent
    So from next monday, we will have a partial stop of all activities for 4 weeks.

    While we are in a relatively good position compared to most of our neighbours, our numbers have doubled every 7-10 days and the leaders fear that the hospitals may get overwhelmed in some weeks.

    My favorite scientist Dr. Christian Drosten explained it like that:
    Imagine you are sitting on a heavy truck in an endless road downwards and the brakes don‘t properly work.
    You can just break for 5 seconds now and then.

    It‘s important hitting the brake for 5 seconds at the beginning and not quite late when the speed has gone too high and you drive off the curve.

    He said, hitting the brakes now for 5 seconds may be enough to slow the truck down so that we can pass thru the coming months without overwhelming our health system.

    Our stop means, that Schools and offices remain open but homeoffice must be done whenever possible. Retail remains open, all restaurants, pubs and bars are closed.
    No tourist activities are allowed, gatherings of more than 10 people are not allowed with a maximum of 2 households.
    In 2 weeks the situation will be reassessed.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    Someone in Sweden has started producing a hand sanitizer called "Tegnell's tears", named after the scientist who is the man behind Sweden's failed Corona strategy. :))
    Sweden has lost ten times as many to the pandemic as Norway (adjusted to population size) and the Swedish economy isn't even doing better than the other Nordic countries that has an active anti-corona policy.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    edited November 2020
    In the UK we need at least the tiered restrictions for England which the Westminster government has to get through parliament on Tuesday. A risk is posed by a group of rebel backbench Conservative MPs who oppose the proposed system of tiered regulations and who invoke a false binary between public health and the economy in order to 'prioritise the economy' - many of these MPs also happen to be arch-Brexiteers - and a further risk is created by the government's own political sop of promising to lift some restrictions over the Christmas holiday. I know the whole situation is awful but, really, people need greater resilience and a steadier nerve to get through this pandemic - without putting overwhelming pressure on the health services and seeing spikes in avoidable deaths.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 50 years.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 9,366MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Someone in Sweden has started producing a hand sanitizer called "Tegnell's tears", named after the scientist who is the man behind Sweden's failed Corona strategy. :))
    Sweden has lost ten times as many to the pandemic as Norway (adjusted to population size) and the Swedish economy isn't even doing better than the other Nordic countries that has an active anti-corona policy.

    I'm not up on this. Last I heard, Sweden was doing well and we should have been looking to their example. Now I hear otherwise. I thought the Swedish economy was rubbing along nicely compared to the UK. Or are you comparing it to Norway?
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    If memory served it's compared to the other Nordic countries.
    Covid deaths in Sweden are going way up again, 50-70 each day compared to Norway's roughly 0-2 (based on memory again, I'll check later)
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    Corona deaths per day in Sweden is lower than I believed, but still comparatively high.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    edited November 2020
    @Higgins #1070 on Cuomo

    I too admired Cuomo's leadership in NY during Wave 1. Overall, his daily briefings and response at the time, amidst a desperate crisis in NY, put to shame the federal response and appalling negligence of the Trump administration.

    Interesting to consider more deeply the causes of the spread of the infection in care homes for the elderly. I don't know how far there's a parallel between what happened in NY and the UK, but a disaster in the care sector occurred in the UK partly because agency staff were moving between different residential homes with inadequate availability of PPE - but also because the NHS, concerned about hospital capacity, was discharging elderly people back to care homes without testing them, to free up beds. When the whole situation is reviewed in full, this will be seen, with hindsight, to have been a terrible error.

    Of course, Cuomo's right-wing critics will come at him with whatever they think they've got.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 50 years.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    edited January 9
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    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    Don't you know everyone is a virilogist now? :))
    I'm convinced Tegnell and the Swedish government has done (or not done) everything in good faith. They thought and to a large extent still think their corona strategy was the best for the Swedish people. The problem is how experience and fact does not change their views much. Tegnell belived Stockholm would see herd imunity as early as May. He still thinks herd imunity will kick in any day now. In the meantime Sweden has tragically seen about ten times as many corona deaths as neighbouring countries, but their economy isn't doing any better than other Nordic countries. In most countries this would cause a lot of soul-searching and new strategies. Not so much with "sweet brother" (Norwegian nickname for Swedes).
    The leaders still think they are doing the right thing.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,605MI6 Agent
    Fun fact: I saw three people wearing face masks on Black Friday, my first sightings in the local town/village.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Speaking for myself, I'm not a virologist. I just try to keep pace with what different virologists have to say in news media.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 50 years.
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