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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    They also have not learned much from history. The smaller party in a coalition
    Always pays the price in an election. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,692MI6 Agent
    They also have not learned much from history. The smaller party in a coalition
    Always pays the price in an election. ;)

    Yes, that's where the 1922 Committee formed from. I'm happy and relieved to see the Conservatives returned.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    As well as a few household names losing their seats, I think we may also see a few
    resignations ...................... Soon! ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,692MI6 Agent
    Well done to Danny Kinahin for winning South Antrim from William McCrea. The UUP are back on the green benches of Westminster! :) -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I've always wondered what Fleming would think of the current Political Situation in Britain.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    I've always wondered what Fleming would think of the current Political Situation in Britain.

    03-57am , couldn't you sleep AOS :))
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    Imagine the mood during the Milliband family dinners now ........ :))

    "I told you I should have been the party leader - just look at the mess you made!"

    Red Ed will probably resign soon. I wonder if they will pick his brother?
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I've always wondered what Fleming would think of the current Political Situation in Britain.

    03-57am , couldn't you sleep AOS :))

    The OH and I sat up in Bed talking until I left for Work :)
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Two down ... One to go ...

    When pollsters talked about 'shy Conservatives' they weren't kidding :)) :))
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Another five Years of a Tory government :#

    and The SNP have won 56 out of 59 Seats.
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    It seems like the UK might keep its election system for a while, or what do you think?
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Everyone is resigning left, right and center :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,692MI6 Agent
    I'm glad to see the UUP return to Parliament with two seats this time around. :) -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    edited May 2015
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    :)) :))
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))
    https://youtu.be/rY0WxgSXdEE
    Another one bites the dust ! :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    On the ongoing Top Gear saga, it seems ITV have been having talks with the
    Three lads and their producer ! ;)
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/may/08/top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-james-may-richard-hammond-itv-bbc
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Everyone is resigning left, right and center :))

    Well, left and centre, anyway :))
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    :))
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    Today it's 70 years since VE day. "In the ruins of Stalingrad, the sands of El Alamein and the beaches of Normandy, the gift of freedom was bought for us." A thank you to all veterans who fought on our side.
    One of the youngest veterans in Norway was awarded a medal today. Astrid Linerud lives not far from were I live now and was only nine years old when she worked as a "border pilot" for the resistance. She walked and skied to Sweden and back many times. Usually she carried secret documents back and forth. She also helped refuges to safety, including the family of a double-agent.
    "Father told me never to talk about the people who came an went on the farm. I knew everything was secret. And I knew I had to watch out for the Germans. I was actually more worried about meeting a bear in the forrest." Once she was stopped by German agents when she was alone in the forest, where she was subjected to tough questioning. She never said a word.

    Astrid during the war:

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    Astrid today:

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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
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    Amazing to think that it was 70 Years ago.
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Yes, and What an amazing person- these are the real heroes. -{
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    Some facts after the British election (from The Guardian). It seems deeply unfair to me:


    The Greens won 3.8% of the vote on Thursday compared with 1% in 2010.
    But even with 1.16m ballots the Greens still only retained former leader Caroline Lucas’s seat of Brighton Pavilion.


    By contrast the Scottish National party secured 4.7% (1.45m) but because they were concentrated in Scotland won 56 seats in Westminster.

    The UK Independence party (Ukip) sits at the opposite end of the political spectrum to the Greens but is also calling for first past the post to be scrapped.

    Nigel Farage quit as leader of Ukip – at least temporarily – after failing to win a seat on Thursday but as he departed he labelled the current system an affront to democracy.

    Ukip secured 12.6% of the vote nationwide (3.88m) but, like the Greens, has just one seat in the new parliament.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    It also sttrikes me that the British system favours speratist parties because you get more seats from dominating a region than from being well reperesented all over Britain.
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    The system definately needs 'tweeking'.

    It does seem ludicrous that a party gets 56 from 1.4 million votes and will therefore have a large say in what happens in Parliament.
    The population of Scotland is really quite small in terms of the rest of the country. Its all a bit odd.

    They have spoken for a long time about reducing the number of MP's and I think a lot could change just by moving/extending some constituancy boundaries.

    Problem is, no government is going to vote for reform of a system thats put them in power !! :s
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,797MI6 Agent
    In my opinion the system needs more than tweeking, it should change to a proportional system. There is no sense in a system were one party gets 4.7% of the votes and 56 seats while another party gets 3.8% of the votes and just one seat. Like you say, the problem is that the party(s) in power are in power because of this system and feel little need to change it. The Tories would not have majority under a proportional system. They would argue that the old system creates stabile majority governments, and that's often the case. However, a stabile country with a healthy democratic tradition will almost always create stable governments.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Id love to see what would have happened had the 'in or out' referendum for Scotland had favoured the 'out' argument.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,580Chief of Staff
    Number24 wrote:
    In my opinion the system needs more than tweeking, it should change to a proportional system. There is no sense in a system were one party gets 4.7% of the votes and 56 seats while another party gets 3.8% of the votes and just one seat. Like you say, the problem is that the party(s) in power are in power because of this system and feel little need to change it. The Tories would not have majority under a proportional system. They would argue that the old system creates stabile majority governments, and that's often the case. However, a stabile country with a healthy democratic tradition will almost always create stable governments.

    I don't like 'proportional representation' as a means to elect a government...for me it creates weak governments...too many 'smaller' parties get a say in what governments do and this leads to 'meandering' governments - too scared to actually 'do' anything...
    YNWA 97
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,580Chief of Staff
    minigeff wrote:
    Id love to see what would have happened had the 'in or out' referendum for Scotland had favoured the 'out' argument.

    Scotland voted for change in this election - by voting SNP...they won, but lost at the same time...silly really...
    YNWA 97
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    minigeff wrote:
    Id love to see what would have happened had the 'in or out' referendum for Scotland had favoured the 'out' argument.

    Scotland voted for change in this election - by voting SNP...they won, but lost at the same time...silly really...

    Can someone explain to me who votes for a 20 yrs old student over a more mature, experienced politician ? How on earth was Douglas Alexander unseated by a 20 year old who tweets mainly about getting drunk ?? Where is the credibility when she's holding her surgery and her older constituents come to her with their problems ?? Sounds like she's more Students Union than Government.

    Surely voting blindly for a party without looking at the representative is just irresponsible ?? If that was my constituency I would have been shocked. I may as well have voted for my daughter and that would not have been a great move . :))
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